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Author jonathanfr
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#16 | Posted: 2 Jun 2018 07:09 
jonathanfr:
Chine The Ancient Town of TongliChine The Ancient Town of Zhouzhuang - The ancient waterfron towns in the south of Yangtze River TWHSChine The Ancient Venetian Township in the South of Yangtze River - Luzhi - sameChine The Ancient Venetian Township in the South of Yangtze River - Nanxun - sameChine The Ancient Venetian Township in the South of Yangtze River - Wuzhen - sameChine The Ancient Venetian Township in the South of Yangtze River - Xitang - same

6 towns but 4 are explicitly proposed:
http://whc.unesco.org/fr/listesindicatives/5328/

Author Solivagant
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#17 | Posted: 2 Jun 2018 07:57 | Edited by: Solivagant 
To take the ones identified by Assif above as not having a continued history either as an inscribed site or as part of a revised T List site
Chine Songshan Area
Chine The Ancient Town of Tongli

These 2 TWHS were added to China;'s T Lists of 31/1/2002 and 9/12/98 respectively
Both stayed on subsequent T Lists (China had T List updates every couple of years during the "2000s"!!) until the 7/4/2008 one when they had been removed
This T List had a new entry for "Ancient Waterfront Towns S of Yangtse" and presumably Tongli would have been hopeful of being included as one of the "traditional" 6 towns. But as jonathonfr above says, although it is mentioned as being one of the 6, it is NOT among the 4 towns mentioned.

So both of these are "Former T List Sites"
Songshan 2002 -2008
Tongli 1998 - 2008

Author Solivagant
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#18 | Posted: 2 Jun 2018 08:38 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Denali
Trinity Site
Katmai
All survived from USA's first T List in 1982 until the revision of 30 Jan 2008 and should all be added to our Former T List 1982 -2008


We seem to be having some "problems" with the naming and location of various "glacier" parks in the US!
These were the 5 original Alaskan TWHS from 1982
Aleutian Islands Unit of the Alaska Maritime National Wildlife Refuge
Denali National Park
Gates of the Arctic National Park
Glacier National Park
Katmai National Park
In addition
Arctic National Wildlife was added in 1990

Of all of these ONLY Glacier NP was inscribed and, currently NONE of the others are on the US T List, so all the other 5 SHOULD be on our list of "Former T List sites", We already ONLY have Aleutians and Arctic NWR so need to add 3
Katmai and Denali (as above) PLUS - Gates of Arctic

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#19 | Posted: 2 Jun 2018 09:15 
Assif:
From the top of my head:
Italie Area Archeologica di Saepinum e tratturi - thought we had it, missing indeed

No - it is now encompassed within "The Transhumance: The Royal Shepherd's Track" and we have that recorded on the site's "history. So - NOT a new "Former TWHS"

Author Assif
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#20 | Posted: 2 Jun 2018 10:20 | Edited by: Assif 
http://whc.unesco.org/archive/1998/whc-98-conf203-9e.pdf
Espagne Paisaje del Cister (Ampliación de Poblet) - Poblet WHS
Espagne Paisajes y Rutas del Quijote, Castilla-La Mancha
Espagne Patrimonio Cultural Judío, Castilla-La Mancha
Espagne Real Monasterio de San Juan de la Peña y su entorno, Aragón
Espagne Ruta minero-industrial, Castilla-La Mancha

http://whc.unesco.org/archive/1999/whc-99-conf204-6e.pdf
Espagne Acropole (St-Michel, St-Pierre, Ste-Marie)
Espagne Basilique de Saint Jean [Palencia]
Espagne Cathédrale de l'Annonciation [Grenade]
Espagne Conjunto de la Villa de Laguardia, Alava-Araba - La Rioja wine CL TWHS
Espagne Corral de Comedias (Théatre de la Comédie) [Almagro] - Almagro FTWHS
Espagne Eglise de Santiago
Espagne Eglise de St-Michel d' Escalada [Gradefes (Leon)]
Espagne Ensemble historique du bourg de Betancuria
Espagne Fortificaciones abaluartadas en la frontera hispanoportuquesa, Castilla-Leon
Espagne Hôpital Royal de la Santa Cruz
Espagne La villa de Pedraza, Segovia
Espagne Las Cañadas de La Mesta, Castilla-León
Espagne Las canteras de s'Hostal (Ciutadella), Robadones (es Castell), Binicalssitx (Ferreries) y Santa Ponça (Alaior). Menorca
Espagne Monastère de Santa María la Real - Santa Maria de Guadalupe WHS
Espagne Monastère Royal de Las Huelgas - Las Huelgas FTWHS
Espagne Nord-ouest de l' Ile de Ténériffe
Espagne Nuevo Baztán, Madrid
Espagne Paisaje Minero de la Sierra de Cartagena
Espagne Paisajes Naturales de Canarias - Probaby Teide NP WHS
Espagne Parc National d'Ordesa - Viñamala - Mont Perdu WHS
Espagne Pico Sacro - Boqueixon FTWHS
Espagne Salines de San Fernando
Espagne Santuario de Loyola, Azpeitia-Gipuzkoa
Espagne Site Pittoresque de la Cote Nord-Ouest
Espagne Taulas, Talayots et Navetas. Monuments mégalithiques - Talayotic Minorca TWHS

http://whc.unesco.org/archive/2007/whc07-31com-8af.pdf
Chine Chengyang Yongji Bridge
Chine Foguang Monastery - Wutai WHS
Chine Foguang Temple - same
Chine Historical Remains at Yuan Shangdu - Xanadu WHS
Chine Historical Residential Courtyards in Dingcun - Ancient residences in Shanxi TWHS
Chine Niuheliang Archaeological Site - Hongshan TWHS
Chine Sakya Tower of Fogong Monastery - Wooden structures of Liao Dynasty TWHS
Chine Songshan Area - Dengfeng WHS
Chine The Ancient Town of Tongli
Chine The Ancient Venetian Township in the South of Yangtze River - Nanxun
Chine The Sakyamuni Pagoda at Fogong Temple - Wooden structures of Liao Dynasty TWHS
États-Unis d'Amérique Denali National Park
États-Unis d'Amérique Frank Lloyd Wright Home and Studio
États-Unis d'Amérique Gates of the Artic National Park
États-Unis d'Amérique Katmai National Park
États-Unis d'Amérique Trinity Site
Inde Tomb of Sher Shah Suri, Sasaram, Bihar - Grand Trunk Road TWHS

Author Solivagant
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#21 | Posted: 2 Jun 2018 13:15 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Looking at some of the "unexplained" sites from Assif above -
Chine Chengyang Yongji Bridge
I am pretty sure that this is now covered by "Dong Villages".
It is not specifically mentioned in the UNESCO description of that site but this comment is made - "Roofed bridges (Fengyuqiao) are often seen above the river. They are supported by stacked layers of wood that extends outward to widen the span and minimize shear force of major beams. On top of the bridge is a wooden-structure shelter with a tiled roof. Sometimes, pavilions are built on both ends of the bridge or at the location of the bridge piers."
Our location "Ma'antun, Pingyan Village " is very close to the bridge and its ticket office (on the other side of the river from it.
For the bridge see - http://www.bridgesofdublin.ie/bridge-building/famous-bridges/chengyang-bridge-1916
Views about this "conclusion"?

Chine The Ancient Venetian Township in the South of Yangtze River - Nanxun - is in the same situation as Tongli - ie one of the 2 of the 6 villages which has "missed out" in the Waterside Villages and should be added to our "Former T List entires" list

So - that is the last one from the "2007 group" which includes the USA Alaskan sites as well
Next - all those "unexplained" Spanish ones from 1999 and 1999!

Author jonathanfr
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#22 | Posted: 3 Jun 2018 03:25 | Edited by: jonathanfr 
Solivagant:
Espagne Monastère de Santa María la Real - Santa Maria de Guadalupe WHS

It's not the same "Santa Maria", here it's propably "Santa María la Real de Nájera"

Solivagant:
Espagne Parc National d'Ordesa - Viñamala - Mont Perdu WHS

Viñamala
is an uninscribed part and should appear in a connection.

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#23 | Posted: 3 Jun 2018 03:34 
jonathanfr:
Solivagant:
Espagne Monastère de Santa María la Real - Santa Maria de Guadalupe WHS
It's not the same "Santa Maria", here it's propably "Santa María la Real de Nájera"

Not my "quote" jonathonfr?????

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#24 | Posted: 3 Jun 2018 03:41 
Sorry, yes it's strange, it automatically took your name

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#25 | Posted: 3 Jun 2018 03:54 | Edited by: Solivagant 
jonathanfr:
it automatically took your name

You can't get me off the site!

I have looked at a few of the Spanish ones which assif hadn't tracked
Espagne Fortificaciones abaluartadas en la frontera hispanoportuquesa, Castilla-Leon – Still on T List as "Bulwarked Frontier fortifications"
Espagne Basilique de Saint Jean [Palencia] – included in TWHS of Plasencia - Monfragüe - Trujillo : Paysage méditerranéen
Espagne Las Cañadas de La Mesta, Castilla-León - T List now called Mesta Livestock trails
Espagne Hôpital Royal de la Santa Cruz – Included in Toledo. I am a bit mystified about Toledo. Els has in its site "history" that it was originally only going to be the Hospital but was extended before inscription to the entire city. And its boundaries have certainly always encompassed the Hospital. In which case - why did this entry make it onto the T List of the late 1990s?
Espagne La villa de Pedraza, Segovia – Former TWHS?
Espagne Paisaje Minero de la Sierra de Cartagena – Included in current TWHS of Mining Historical Heritage (but not documented on it on this Web site's history)
Espagne Salines de San Fernando – I think now a former TWHS since the "Ruta de la Sol" around Cadiz (where they are situated) isn't on Spain's current T List
Espagne Santuario de Loyola, Azpeitia-Gipuzkoa – I think now a former TWHS. There is no sign of anything on Spain's T List now in this area.

Author jonathanfr
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#26 | Posted: 3 Jun 2018 04:07 | Edited by: jonathanfr 
It's strange to see in a same source "Sakya Tower of Fogong Monastery" and "The Sakyamuni Pagoda at Fogong Temple" counted as two sites.
But yes, it's now registred as "Wooden structures of Liao Dynasty".

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#27 | Posted: 3 Jun 2018 04:38 
Are you "managing" this process jonathonfr - it was your list which kicked it all off!!!!
Which items from your list do do you consider that we all agree are
a. genuine missing "Former TWHS"
b. Still "unexplained" as to where they have "gone" ie on the T List with another name or inscribed or further "Former T List"

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#28 | Posted: 3 Jun 2018 04:45 | Edited by: jonathanfr 
Here is a summary of the current status:

a. genuine missing "Former TWHS"
The Ancient Town of Tongli
The Ancient Venetian Township in the South of Yangtze River - Nanxun
La villa de Pedraza, Segovia
Salines de San Fernando
Santuario de Loyola, Azpeitia-Gipuzkoa
Denali National Park
Frank Lloyd Wright Home and Studio
Gates of the Artic National Park
Katmai National Park
Trinity Site

b. Still "unexplained" as to where they have "gone" ie on the T List with another name or inscribed or further "Former T List"
Acropole (St-Michel, St-Pierre, Ste-Marie)
Basilique de Saint Jean [Palencia]
Cathédrale de l'Annonciation [Grenade]
Eglise de Santiago
Eglise de St-Michel d' Escalada [Gradefes (Leon)]
Ensemble historique du bourg de Betancuria
Las canteras de s'Hostal (Ciutadella), Robadones (es Castell), Binicalssitx (Ferreries) y Santa Ponça (Alaior). Menorca
Monastère de Santa María la Real
Nord-ouest de l' Ile de Ténériffe
Nuevo Baztán, Madrid
Paisajes y Rutas del Quijote, Castilla-La Mancha
Patrimonio Cultural Judío, Castilla-La Mancha
Real Monasterio de San Juan de la Peña y su entorno, Aragón
Ruta minero-industrial, Castilla-La Mancha
Site Pittoresque de la Cote Nord-Ouest
Tomb of King Munyong

Author Solivagant
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#29 | Posted: 3 Jun 2018 05:59 | Edited by: Solivagant 
jonathanfr:
Tomb of King Munyong

I think this must refer to "King Munjong" which is one of the Royal Joseon Tombs inscribed in 2009. His tomb is in the Donggureung Cluster
https://ozoutback.com.au/Korea/royal-tombs/slides/2014052104.html

Author jonathanfr
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#30 | Posted: 3 Jun 2018 06:25 
Solivagant:
I think this must refer to "King Munjong" which is one of the Royal Joseon Tombs inscribed in 2009. His tomb is in the Donggureung Clusterhttps://ozoutback.com.au/Korea/royal-tombs/slides/2014052104.html

Yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donggureung

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