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Author Solivagant
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#16 | Posted: 31 Oct 2011 05:53 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Euloroo:
Australia has National, State and Local heritage listings managed by the three tiers of Government and reflecting the value of the heritage respectively. Since the National Heritage List was only established in 2004, existing World Heritage Sites were retrospectively listed en masse in 2007.


Herewith a link to the Australian National heritage List (with a useful map)
http://www.environment.gov.au/heritage/places/national/index.html

and here an alternative view on Wiki which shows which are/are not WHS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_National_Heritage_List

I notice a few 20th C sites (e.g Qantas Hangar, Melbourne Cricket Ground, ICI building, Sidney Myer Music bowl) but doubt if any other than Sydney Harbour Bridge (?) could justify WHS.

I have also just tried to check if Australia's T List sites were registered as National Heritage and was surprised to find that it ony has 2 T List sites - both "extensions" to existing WHS!
Euloroo -do you know of any process to generate a new Australian T List?

Author meltwaterfalls
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#17 | Posted: 31 Oct 2011 06:56 
Euloroo:
Interestingly they also have three sites on a List of Overseas Places of Historic Significance to Australia ... Howard Florey's Laboratory, Oxford, UK.

I always thought that the Turf Tavern was of more significance to Australians' in Oxford as this was where Bob Hawke set the world record for drinking a yard of ale! At least it was of distinct interest to my Aussie friends on their visit last year.

Joking aside I do like that idea of sites abroad that are of national significance.

Author Euloroo
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#18 | Posted: 31 Oct 2011 07:54 | Edited by: Euloroo 
Solivagant:
Euloroo -do you know of any process to generate a new Australian T List?

Nope, I haven't been able to find anything recently. But Australia is notoriously parochial and the federal government is therefore somewhat emasculated (no pun intended towards the current PM!). This is evidenced by the fact that the National Heritage Register is a relatively recent innovation. Most of the previous WH submissions have been pushed by State Governments, sometimes with dubious political motivations (e.g. the Royal Exhibition Building saga).

One of the more likely candidates for future nomination is the Cape York Peninsular (at the far northern end of Queensland) which isn't even on the National Heritage Register. Further info on the Cape York potential nomination can be found here. However the Queensland State Government has alienated traditional aboriginal owners in recent times who are concerned that they can't develop for tourism. This was always going to be a sensitive issue in an area with significant levels of indigenous poverty. The Federal Government has stepped in more recently but I have no idea why "talks" will cost $3million!?

Author Euloroo
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#19 | Posted: 31 Oct 2011 08:02 
meltwaterfalls:
I always thought that the Turf Tavern was of more significance to Australians

No doubt it is! The Howard Florey listing is a little bit trite. Will it be the Harmsworth Memorial Animal Hospital next?!

Author Euloroo
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#20 | Posted: 31 Oct 2011 08:08 | Edited by: Euloroo 
One location on the National Heritage List which could be a goer is the Royal National Park. Last year a community campaign was launched to achieve WH status. I think they've got most chance of achieving it by focussing on the influence on the world conservation movement.

Author Durian
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#21 | Posted: 31 Oct 2011 09:04 | Edited by: Durian 
Solivagant:
the Chinese do love their numeric lists


Solivagant, yes it's true, and the number they love are 4 and 100, you will find all the time, 4 best gardens, 4 best scenics, 4 top sacred mountains, 4 most beautiful women, 4 must read classical books, 4 greatest tea, top 100 emperors, etc..

While Japanese seem to prefer numbers 3 and 100, you will find best 3 gardens, 3 best views, 3 holiest mountain, 3 best castle, 100 best waterfalls, 100 best hotspring, etc..

But many of these top 4 or top 3 are in WHS, for example, Summer Palace, Chengde Resort and 2 gardens in Suzhou are top 4 gardens of China, Mount Wutai and Mount Emei are in top 4 buddhist sacred mountains, Torii Gate of Itsukushima Shrine is one of top 3 Japanese view and Himeji Castle is the best in top 3 castle.

Author winterkjm
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#22 | Posted: 31 Oct 2011 14:04 | Edited by: winterkjm 
Number 4 is considered an unlucky number in Chinese because it is nearly homophonous to the word "death". Due to that, many numbered product lines skip the "4": Nokia cell phones (there is no series beginning with a 4), Palm PDAs, Canon PowerShot G's series (after G3 goes G5), etc. In East Asia, some buildings do not have a 4th floor.

It is strange that there are so many lists of 4 in China when it is considered such an unlucky number?

Four is very unlucky in Korea as well. Three seems to be far more common in listing important places. However, it does not seem to be that common to only use one number in Korea in most lists.

Three Jewels in Korean Buddhism
Tongdosa Temple represents the Buddha
Haeinsa Temple represents the dharma or Buddhist teachings
Songgwangsa Temple represents the sangha or Buddhist community

Eight also seems to be common. Besides the Eight Views of Korea, there are many categories like this for cities, such as the Eight Views of Danyang.

The Eight Views of Korea are a collection of the beautiful scenery of Korea, that are now understood to be as follows:

North Korea
Baekdu Mountain
Yalu River
Kŭmgangsan
Pujon Highland
Moran Hill (Pyongyang)

South Korea
Jirisan
Gyeongju
Hallasan

Author bojboj
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#23 | Posted: 31 Oct 2011 20:28 
Here's for PRECUP - Philippine Registry of Cultural Property (Built Heritage)
the entry says the list is incomplete; cannot find at the moment an official list but just to give an idea, you can check it out:

http://www.ivanhenares.com/2005/04/index-of-declared-structures-and-sites.html

The list includes UNESCO World Heritage Sites and National Cultural Treasures - a good number of which are churches - four under UNESCO tentative list. Photos of some can be found here:
http://heritageconservation.wordpress.com/category/national-cultural-treasures/page/2 /

You can calibrate the OUV of churches of Lazi, Boljoon, Tumauini, Guian and Loboc (these five for extension of Baroque Churches of the Philippines)

This one for National Parks and other Protected Areas:
http://www.ivanhenares.com/2005/04/national-parks-and-other-protected.html

Author Solivagant
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#24 | Posted: 1 Nov 2011 04:38 | Edited by: Solivagant 
This adds a few more countries (including Albania, Argentina, Canada, Chile, Croatia, Denmark et al ..... through to USA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heritage_registers

The completeness and accessibility of the data varies considerably - in some cases it is far too detailed to be of great use unless you know pretty specifically what you are looking for e.g The French "Base Merimee" is enormous (France apparently claims to be the first country to try to preserve monuments etc and carried out an invnetory as long ago as 1840). France also has a list of its 20th C monuments which might be of interest
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/documentation/milxx/pres.htm

Author Durian
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#25 | Posted: 1 Nov 2011 11:45 | Edited by: Durian 
Solivagant:
Has Japan really got nothing since 1909 which should be protected as a "National Treaure"?


Solivagant, from my study, Japanese do have many after 1909 structures listed as "Important Cultural Property" but not as "National Treasure"

The significant listed modern building are Yodoko Guest House completed in 1924 and designed by Frank Lloyd Wright!, it was listed in 1974, exactly 50 years after completion. And the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park and Museum designed by Kenzo_Tange completed in 1955 listed in 2006, 51 years after completion. Seem that Japanese use 50 years as the main criteria.

Author Euloroo
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#26 | Posted: 22 Jan 2012 02:54 
The Cape York nomination seems to be progressing.

Author winterkjm
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#27 | Posted: 7 Dec 2014 17:01 | Edited by: winterkjm 
11/14/2014 Juche 103

"To Protect National Heritage is a Patriotic Undertaking for Adding Brilliance to the History and Traditions of our Nation!"

I don't know if this actually means NK will place more importance on cultural heritage or its just something new for Kim, Jong-un to proclaim. It would be interesting to see if any new national treasures are designated (the last national treasure was designated in 2006). Indeed, perhaps even one of NK's tentative nominations being put forward? Who knows...

"The work underscores the need to restore historical remains and relics to their original state, retain excellent traditions, conduct the work for protecting the national heritage as the nationwide and all-people one and put it on a scientific basis. We, historians and archaeologists, have not paid due attention to preserving historical remains and relics in some parts of the country, under the pretext of difficult economic situation of the country."

http://www.uriminzokkiri.com/index.php?ptype=english&no=591

Author vantcj1
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#28 | Posted: 10 Dec 2014 18:46 | Edited by: vantcj1 
Hello to everyone!

In Costa Rica, as a very centralized country, only operates the protection of cultural heritage (both tangible and intangible) on one level: the national. The institution that is entitled to this role is the "Centro de Conservación del Patrimonio Cultural", which is adscribed to the Ministry of Culture, in general, and the National Museum, for archaeological heritage.

The legal frame is set by laws like Law #6703, from 1982, for the protection of archaeological heritage. For the "historical/architectural" heritage exists Law 7555 (from 1995, replacing Law #5397 from 1973).

As in other countries, the listing of a building or site is a whole process, which ends with a decree by the president, and gives the owner of the building certain guarantees and legal exemptions, but also great restrictions for modifications to the building, and a quite vague requirement to watch over the adequate preservation of the building, that in the practice usually garnered little consequence to those who didn't protect or could not afford restoration works.

Fortunately, the state is taking over more and more this process of renovation. Of course, other branches of the government (when they own the property, which is quite usual) and others are taking part in it, all controlled by the aforementioned "Centro de Patrimonio".

Website for the "Centro de Patrimonio" URL

Website where one can browse every one of the 375 listed buildings http://www.patrimonio.go.cr/busqueda/ResultadoBusquedaInmuebles.aspx
in which I find the pictures a little underwhelming

And on the matter of modern heritage, up until now there are only two buildings listed, being those: the seat of the National Insurance Institute-Cartago branch, and the Church of Fatima in Los Yoses-Montes de Oca. Both buildings are from the 70s-80s, for which appears that the time lapse for listing is 30 years. Of course, that will grow as the years pass.

One last matter: don't search for the Diquis sites in this list, they aren't there, they are protected by a decree of the early 1990s that declared Osa canton "of archaeological interest", for which, anything that is found there, is subject to protection. But other archaeological sites do are in the list by the "Centro de Patrimonio": Guayabo National Monument and Aguascalientes Monument, both in the center of the country.

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