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Author elsslots
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#31 | Posted: 6 May 2014 12:54 
meltwaterfalls:
I posted a potential boundaries map on the other thread, in case that gives you a bit of a tick.

Yeah I saw that later. Nice map. Like in Suzhou, I likely will have crossed the core zone on my way to another site (Bell&Drum Towers and Garden respectively). But I cannot find any pictures of either (only Beihai Lake).

Author winterkjm
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#32 | Posted: 23 May 2014 02:55 
Information on the Maritime Route, which will seek inscription at a later date.

http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/ent6722.html

Author Durian
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#33 | Posted: 10 Jul 2014 04:19 

Author Khuft
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#34 | Posted: 10 Jul 2014 12:46 


Interestingly, the Xisha islands and Nansha islands where these underwater archaeological activities take place actually refer to what we know as Paracel and Spratly islands - i.e. the islands which are also claimed in part by Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. Thus it seems very unlikely these elements would be accepted for inscription...

Author winterkjm
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#35 | Posted: 10 Jul 2014 13:29 | Edited by: winterkjm 
"More cities have joined Quanzhou's application for UNESCO World Heritage status since it was first mooted in 2002. A total of nine, including Nanjing and Ningbo, are now on the tentative world heritage list. Last month, the nine cities issued a joint declaration strongly advocating inclusion of the South China Sea section of the Maritime Silk Road on the tentative list."

I don't see the Maritime Silk Route on the tentative list? It is also unclear if the South China Sea properties are technically part of the nomination, or if its only being proposed and supported for possible inclusion. It would be a guaranteed sinking of this nomination.

Vietnam and the Philippines are on the world heritage committee until 2017. If China did eventually propose this nomination (with South China Sea sites) than it would undoubtably be pursued after 2017.

Author Khuft
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#36 | Posted: 10 Jul 2014 16:43 
winterkjm:
I don't see the Maritime Silk Route on the tentative list?


I think on China's original tentative list description of the Silk Road, they had included at least Quanzhou and Ningbo (as far as I remember). In this year's inscription, only the land part was included (with other elements, btw).

Author Solivagant
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#37 | Posted: 10 Jul 2014 17:09 
Khuft:
I think on China's original tentative list description of the Silk Road, they had included at least Quanzhou and Ningbo (as far as I remember).


I keep meaning to try to "keep" original T List descriptions but always forget!! I must try to see this one is still available using "Wayback Machine" and/or other ways of accessing cached pages.

It is rather surprising that the Silk Road should have been removed in its entirety from China's T List - we must surely expect it to be reinstated there in some form?? I also wonder if the other elements will be handled as extensions or as separate inscriptions.

Author Khuft
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#38 | Posted: 10 Jul 2014 17:53 | Edited by: Khuft 
Here's how I had recorded them for myself (description not necessarily the official Chinese one, as these are sometimes misleading) - sorry if it's not easy to read; it's copied from an Excel speadsheet:

- Name of Monument; Location; Country; Admin Division
- Rock-hewn grottoes of Mount Maiji (Maijishan Grottoes) Mount Maiji, near Tianshui China Gansu;
- Remains of Chang'an City of the Han Dynasty Xi'an China Shaanxi
- Remains of Chang'an City of the Tang Dynasty Xi'an China Shaanxi
- Ruins of the ancient city of Jiaohe near Turpan (Turfan) China Xinjiang
- Gongyi stone cave temple Gongyi, Zhengzhou county China Henan
- Han and Wie dynasties city of Luoyang Luoyang China Henan
- Sui and Tang dynasties city of Luoyang Luoyang China Henan
- White Horse Temple Luoyang China Henan
- Cultural landscape of the Xiaohan area and the Hangu (Han'gu) Pass Hangu (Han'gu) pass, near Lingbao China Henan
- Maoling mausoleum (Mao imperial mausoleum) and tomb of general Huo Qubing Xingping China Shaanxi
- Tomb of Zhang Qian Chenggu county, Hanzhong prefecture China Shaanxi
- Sarira stupa (dagoba) of Kumarajiva (Kumārajīva) Hu county, near Xi'an China Shaanxi
- Xingjiao Temple Xi'an China Shaanxi
- Famen temple and underground chamber Famen, Fufeng county China Shaanxi
- Daqin Pagoda Zhouzhi county, Xi'an China Shaanxi
- Zhao mausoleum of the Tang dynasty Jiuzong mountain, Liquan county, Xianyang China Shaanxi
- Qianling (Qian imperial) mausoleum of the Tang dynasty Qian county, Xianyang China Shaanxi
- Great Buddhist Temple Grottoes (Grotto Temple of the Great Buddha, Dafosi grottoes) Bin county, Xianyang China Shaanxi
- Great Mosque of Xi'an Xi'an China Shaanxi
- Xumishan grottoes Xumishan (Mount Xumi), Guyuan prefecture China Ningxia
- Mongol palace site of Kaicheng Kaicheng, Guyuan prefecture China Ningxia
- Historic sites and tombs of the Northern, Sui and Tang dynasties of Guyuan prefecture Guyuan prefecture China Ningxia
- Shuilian Dong Water Curtain Cave with Sakyamuni rock, in Lashao temple Wushan county, Tianshui prefecture China Gansu
- Bingling temple grottoes Yongjing county, Linxia Hui autonomous prefecture China Gansu
- Ruins of the Yumen Pass (Yumen guan, Jade Gate) and Hecang town and fortress Yumen pass, Dunhuang county China Gansu
- Site of the city and tomb complex of Suoyang Suoyang, Guazhou county China Gansu
- Ruins of Luotuocheng (Camel City) and tomb complex Luotuocheng, Gaotai county China Gansu
- Tomb complex of Guoyuan-Xincheng near Jiayuguan China Gansu
- Great Buddha Temple of Zhangye Zhangye China Gansu
- Temple grottoes of Mati and associated temples Mati Tibetan district, Sunan Yugur autonomous county China Gansu
- Yulin caves Yulin, Guazhou county China Gansu
- Ruins of Xuanquanzhi Xuanquanzhi, near Dunhuang China Gansu
- Ruins of the ancient city of Gaochang (Qara-hoja) and graves of Astana Gaochang, near Turpan (Turfan) China Xinjiang
- Taizang pagoda near Turpan (Turfan) China Xinjiang
- Ruins of Subashi temple Subashi, Kucha (Kuqa) county, Aksu prefecture China Xinjiang
- Archaeological site of Loulan Loulan, Ruoqiang (Qakilik) county China Xinjiang
- Archaeological site of Niya Niya, Minfeng county China Xinjiang
- Thousand Buddha caves of Kizil (Qizil, Qyzyl) Kizil, Baicheng (Bay) county China Xinjiang
- Thousand Buddha caves of Kumtura Kumtura, Kucha (Kuqa) county China Xinjiang
- Thousand Buddha caves of Senmusaimu (Simsim) Senmusaimu, Kucha (Kuqa) county China Xinjiang
- Thousand Buddha caves of Bezeklik Bezeklik, Turpan (Turfan) county China Xinjiang
- Buddhist caves of Toyuq (Toyuk) Toyuq, Piqan (Shanshan) county China Xinjiang
- Tomb of Mahmud al-Kashgari Shufu county China Xinjiang
- Historic city of Ningbo Ningbo China Zhejiang
- Historic city of Quanzhou Quanzhou China Fujian

Author Solivagant
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#39 | Posted: 11 Jul 2014 01:43 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Khuft:
Here's how I had recorded them for myself (description not necessarily the official Chinese one, as these are sometimes misleading

Thanks Khuft

It might be of interest that I did find the exact Web page of the Silk Road T List site as it was in April 2013 using the Wayback Machine. Forum members who are not aware of this facility might find it useful if, for instance, they are ever wondering what a, now removed, T List entry looked like, or what the entire T List covered at a particular date -
http://web.archive.org/web/20130412084104/http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/533 5/

It is best to start within Wayback Machine by entering to its search a relevant higher level Web page whose current web address you know and which would have been the same in the past - e.g The UNESCO T List "entry page". Then choose a date you are interested in from among all of the archives it offers (It has history from its "crawls", usually about every month, through the UNESCO Web site since 2001 but the first T List available is Nov 2005 - As I remember it the WH Centre Web site only started publishing the T List then (before then it used to be quite difficult to discover what was on the T List - one had to look at past WHC papers!). Interestingly it has records for worldheritagesite.org since May 2001 when Els had only visited 67 WHS!!! see what it looked like then - http://web.archive.org/web/20010516224205/http://www.worldheritagesite.org/ ) - once there you can navigate within the structure as at that date as if you were using the live Web site. NB Not all pages within a site are archived so there is no "guarantee"

Author meltwaterfalls
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#40 | Posted: 11 Jul 2014 06:44 
I mapped the t-list site them a couple of years ago. If you wanted just the Silk Rute sites in China then this is it and yep it did include Quanzhou and Ningbo.

I will hopefully get around to mapping the new inscriptions shortly, as soon as I regain my life from events in Brazil and a couple of weekends away.

Author Durian
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#41 | Posted: 17 Sep 2014 23:47 

Author Durian
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#42 | Posted: 25 Nov 2015 22:31 | Edited by: Durian 
Update on Silk Road Project

The 4th Silk Roads Serial World Heritage Nomination Coordinating Committee Meeting will be held from 24 to 26 November 2015 in Almaty, Kazakhstan.

Important agendas are:

- Review the referred nomination "Penjikent-Samarkand-Poykent Corridor" (Tajikistan - Uzbekistan)
- Presentation and workshop "Fergana-Syrdarya Corridor" (Kazakhstan – Kyrgyzstan – Tajikistan – Uzbekistan)
- Presentation and workshop"South Asian Silk Road" (Bhutan, China, India, Nepal)
- Maritime Silk Roads Project (China)
- Project "Mausam: Maritime Routes and Cultural landscapes" (India)

More information on Mausam Project that focus on ancient maritime route in Indian Ocean and Indian cultural world.

At least 5 potential serial sites under Silk Road Theme is currently developing.

Author Assif
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#43 | Posted: 26 Nov 2015 14:47 
Durian:
Review the referred nomination "Penjikent-Samarkand-Poykent Corridor" (Tajikistan - Uzbekistan)

If the meeting is held now and Tajikistan and Uzebkistan promptly process the recommendations there is a chance of the referred Silk Road nomination being resubmitted by 2017. It could then be considered the same year (3 years from referral in 2014).
Tajikistan has been comparably efficient with its nominations in recent years with complete submissions for 2010, 2013 and 2014. Uzbekistan, on the other hand, has a pitiful reputation for failing to prepare its nominations adequately. Examples include Sarmishsay (inclomplete 2012 and 2013), Termiz (incomplete 2012, 2013 and 2014) and Tien Shan (incomplete 2015).

Author winterkjm
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#44 | Posted: 7 Jan 2016 23:52 
Japan will support the Silk Road extension and recommends seeking registration aimed for 2020.

http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002663279

Author winterkjm
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#45 | Posted: 10 Jan 2016 09:52 | Edited by: winterkjm 
Assif:
there is a chance of the referred Silk Road nomination being resubmitted by 2017. It could then be considered the same year (3 years from referral in 2014).

The Almaty Agreement identifies the target date for submissions as February 2017, incription in 2018.

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