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Author nfmungard
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#1 | Posted: 5 May 2020 02:58 
Let's keep our proposal thread free of brainstorming new sites and gaps.

Author nfmungard
Partaker
#2 | Posted: 5 May 2020 03:00 | Edited by: nfmungard 
Brainstorming / draft proposals of mine:

- Pubs of the UK and Ireland (UK, Ireland)
Some components were proposed.

- Hebrides Islands (UK) *Unspecified boundaries, the whole area + Isle of Skye?
Scoping here an interesting question.

- Whisky Distilleries of Scotland (UK) *No identified components yet
Again, what are the best / most historic distilleries of Scotland. Islay may be a nice area.

- Scottish Castles (serial) (UK) *Partially identified components (Eilean Donan)

- Historic Football Fields and Stadiums (UK) *No identified components yet
Proposal was made.

- Disneyland (USA) *authenticity issues raised

- Bryce Canyon National Park (USA)
- Zion Canyon National Park (USA)
Single out the best NP or combine with multiple NPs of the larger area?

- Bell Laboratories (USA)
- Casinos of Las Vegas (USA) *authenticity issues raised
- Ivy League Universities (USA) *No identified components yet

Other US topics:
- Fast Food Industrry (USA)
- Petrol Industry (USA)
- Route 66 / Highway system
-

Author winterkjm
Partaker
#3 | Posted: 5 May 2020 03:27 | Edited by: winterkjm 
nfmungard:
historic telescopes

Assif:
For American technological advances how about Arecibo Observatory?

I find the Goldstone Deep Space Communications Complex at least equally as impressive, though they have different functions. The US has several sites in this technological advance category, Lowell Observatory in Arizona, JPL historic sites in Pasadena, and the Hale Telescope.

This conversation about Historic Telescopes/Satellites belongs in this "whiteboard".

Author meltwaterfalls
Partaker
#4 | Posted: 5 May 2020 04:57 
Trying to work up a couple of these proposals, I'm just rather pressed for time.

Where would be the best place to post ones that I think are interesting proposal, but I wouldn't probably think of as being top 50 missing?

Author jonathanfr
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#5 | Posted: 5 May 2020 06:01 | Edited by: jonathanfr 
nfmungard:
- Whisky Distilleries of Scotland (UK) *No identified components yet
Again, what are the best / most historic distilleries of Scotland. Islay may be a nice area.

I suggested Dallas Dhu Distillery as it has been considered in the past for inscription on the tentative list without success.
https://www.rug.nl/research/portal/files/9836834/c3.pdf
But other components could be added: Aberlour Distillery, Glenfiddich Distillery

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#6 | Posted: 5 May 2020 06:04 
winterkjm:
- Fast Food Industrry (USA)

Oldest McDonald's restaurant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_McDonald%27s_restaurant

Author Assif
Partaker
#7 | Posted: 5 May 2020 07:33 | Edited by: Assif 
Assif:
Maybe we should stick to the largest historical optical telescopes remaining? These would be Hooker and Hale telescopes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_optical_telescopes_historically

FredericM:
Kennedy Space Center and Houston Mission Control Center (or other more well preserved component) as a transnational site about space exploration with Kazakhstan's Baikonur Cosmodrome.

Still missing proposals here.

Author nfmungard
Partaker
#8 | Posted: 5 May 2020 09:43 | Edited by: nfmungard 
jonathanfr:
Oldest McDonald's restaurant

My understanding was always that McDonalds war failry late in the game? But roughly these types of places would be nice to add.

jonathanfr:
I suggested Dallas Dhu Distillery as it has been considered in the past for inscription on the tentative list without success.

Dallas Dhu is part of the Single Malt Trail. Several seem worthy:
* Strathisla distillery - Oldest continuously operated distillery in the highlands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strathisla_distillery
* Cardhu - 1824 founded. "The distillery was established in 1824 by John Cumming, who had previously been a whisky smuggler." But major parts

Others:
* Islay - Ardbeg, Lagavulin, Bowmore
* Dalwhinnie

USA
Brainstorming USA, we should maybe try to find one per state? Our American community members should have a better feeling for how well the states are covered.

UK
For the UK, I think there are a few simple places that may warrant discussion:
Windsor Castle
Cliffs of Dover.

In addition, we don't have much modern architecture in the UK. Also, several of the islands (Wight, Man, Scilly, Jersey / Guernsey) may warrant a look.

Ireland
For Ireland, Cliffs of Moher are on everyone's itinerary.

Europe
Modern architecture is not listed for every country. Some sites to consider:
* Paris: Centre Pompidou, La Defense, La Villette
* Spain: Valencia Ciudad de la Sciencia
...

Author Colvin
Partaker
#9 | Posted: 5 May 2020 10:15 | Edited by: Colvin 
nfmungard:
Brainstorming USA, we should maybe try to find one per state?

For brainstorming purposes that may be all right, but in actuality I would be afraid that would lead to weaker nominations being put forward, as has happened with some countries in Europe. I'd have to give hard thought to whether there are any more potential sites missing in the mid-Atlantic.

As for fast food restaurants, White Castle is believed to be the earliest fast food chain inthe United States; it's almost 100 years old. White Castle has a reputation for being late night stoner cuisine. For influence on the world, both McDonalds and KFC have become pretty ubiquitous. I still wonder whether fast food culture is too young to make an accurate assessment of its place in world history.

nfmungard:
For Ireland, Cliffs of Moher are on everyone's itinerary.

The Cliffs of Moher were beautiful to see, but I don't know that they would make it as a natural site on their own. I'm rather partial to the Royal Sites of Ireland, though.

Author Colvin
Partaker
#10 | Posted: 5 May 2020 11:12 | Edited by: Colvin 
nfmungard:
USA
Brainstorming USA, we should maybe try to find one per state?

The more I think about this, the more intrigued I am to see what is already out there. I'll use this post and the next to summarize what WHS are already in states, and what tentative sites have been proposed or are on the US Tentative World Heritage Site list.

Alabama
Civil Rights Movement Sites (TWHS)
Tennessee Valley Authority (Top 50 proposed)

Alaska
Kluane/Wrangell-St. Elias/Glacier Bay/Tatshenshini-Alsek
Alaska Maritime National Wildlife Refuge (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Arizona
Grand Canyon National Park
The 20th Century Architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright (Taliesin West)
Ancestral Lands of the Diné: Canyon de Chelly & Monument Valley (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Hoover Dam (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Petrified Forest National Park (TWHS; Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Arkansas

California
Redwood National and State Parks
Yosemite National Park
The 20th Century Architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright (Hollyhock House)
Bodie Historic District (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
California Current Conservation Complex (TWHS; Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Carrizo Plain (Top 50 proposed)
Case Study Houses in Los Angeles (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Coso Rock Art District (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Death Valley National Park (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Disneyland (Top 50 proposed)
First Transcontinental Railroad (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Golden Gate Bridge (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
History of Film - Hollywood + Movie Palaces on Broadway (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Rock Art of the Chumash People (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
San Francisco Cable Cars (Top 50 proposed)
Sequoia & Kings Canyon National Parks (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Colorado
Mesa Verde National Park

Connecticut

Delaware
Eleutherian Mills (Top 50 proposed)

Florida
Everglades National Park
Miami Beach Architectural District (Top 50 proposed)

Georgia
Okefenokee National Wildlife Refuge (TWHS; Top 50 proposed)
Tennessee Valley Authority (Top 50 proposed)

Hawaii
Hawaii Volcanoes National Park
Papahanaumokuakea Marine National Monument
Alaka'i Swamp (Top 50 proposed)
Heritage of the Hawaiian Kingdom (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Pacific Remote Islands Marine National Monument (TWHS)

Idaho
Yellowstone National Park
Ice Age Floods National Geologic Trail (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Illinois
The 20th Century Architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright (Frederick C. Robie House, Unity Temple)
Early Chicago Skyscrapers (TWHS; Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Tevatron (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Indiana

Iowa
First Transcontinental Railroad (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Kansas

Kentucky
Mammoth Cave National Park
Tennessee Valley Authority (Top 50 proposed)

Louisiana
Monumental Earthworks of Poverty Point
French Quarter of New Orleans (Top 50 proposed)

Author Colvin
Partaker
#11 | Posted: 5 May 2020 11:13 | Edited by: Colvin 
Maine

Maryland

Massachussetts
Saugus Iron Works (Top 50 proposed)

Michigan
Ford Plant Ensemble: Birth of the Automotive Industry (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Lake Superior National Marine Conservation Area (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Quincy Mine (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Minnesota
Fur Trading Centers of the Northwest (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Mississippi
Tennessee Valley Authority (Top 50 proposed)

Missouri
Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site

Montana
Waterton Glacier International Peace Park
Yellowstone National Park
Ice Age Floods National Geologic Trail (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Nebraska
First Transcontinental Railroad (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Nevada
Death Valley National Park (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
First Transcontinental Railroad (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Hoover Dam (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

New Hampshire
Mount Washington Cog Railway (Top 50 proposed)

New Jersey
Statue of Liberty
Bell Labs (Top 50 proposed)

New Mexico
Carlsbad Caverns National Park
Chaco Culture
Taos Pueblo
White Sands National Park (TWHS; Top 50 proposed and seconded)

New York
Statue of Liberty
The 20th Century Architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright (Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum)
Brooklyn Bridge (TWHS)
Brooklyn Brown Stones (Top 50 proposed)
Central Park (TWHS)
Ellis Island (TWHS)
New York Skyscrapers (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

North Carolina
Great Smoky Mountains National Park
Tennessee Valley Authority (Top 50 proposed)

North Dakota

Ohio
Dayton Aviation Sites (TWHS)
Hopewell Ceremonial Earthworks (TWHS)
Serpent Mound (TWHS)

Oklahoma

Oregon
Ice Age Floods National Geologic Trail (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Author Colvin
Partaker
#12 | Posted: 5 May 2020 11:17 | Edited by: Colvin 
Pennsylvania
Independence Hall
The 20th Century Architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright (Fallingwater)
Moravian Church Settlements (TWHS)

Rhode Island

South Carolina

South Dakota
Badlands National Park: A North American Prairie (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Tennessee
Great Smoky Mountains National Park
Tennessee Valley Authority (Top 50 proposed)

Texas
San Antonio Missions
Big Bend National Park (TWHS)

Utah
Ancestral Lands of the Diné: Canyon de Chelly & Monument Valley (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Arches National Park (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Bryce Canyon National Park (Top 50 proposed)
First Transcontinental Railroad (Top 50 proposed and seconded)
Zion National Park (Top 50 proposed)

Vermont

Virginia
Monticello and the University of Virginia in Charlottesville
Mount Vernon (TWHS)
Tennessee Valley Authority (Top 50 proposed)
Thomas Jefferson Buildings (TWHS)

Washington
Olympic National Park
Ice Age Floods National Geologic Trail (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

West Virginia

Wisconsin
The 20th Century Architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright (Herbert and Katherine Jacobs House and Taliesin)
Vulcan Street Plan / Works of Edison (Top 50 proposed)

Wyoming
Yellowstone National Park
First Transcontinental Railroad (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Washington, DC (federal district)
The Mall of Washington DC (Top 50 proposed and seconded)

American Samoa (territory)
Marine Protected Areas of American Samoa (TWHS)

Guam (territory)

Northern Mariana Islands (territory)
Marianas Trench Marine National Monument (TWHS; Top 50 proposed and seconded)

Puerto Rico (territory)
La Fortaleza and San Juan Historic Site in Puerto Rico
Caguana Ceremonial Ball Courts Site (Top 50 proposed)

U.S. Virgin Islands (territory)

Author winterkjm
Partaker
#13 | Posted: 5 May 2020 12:02 | Edited by: winterkjm 
jonathanfr:
Oldest McDonald's restaurant

I have been here and admittedly its pretty interesting. The design stands out and its authenticity is strong. It is not on the National Register of Historic Places, but not a National Historic Landmark (which is higher protection/designation).

meltwaterfalls:
I wouldn't probably think of as being top 50 missing?

I think here is the best place.

Author nfmungard
Partaker
#14 | Posted: 5 May 2020 12:03 
A little more ideas for discussion:
* Scandinavian lake landscape could warrant an inscription (SE, FI)
* Same goes for the mountains between Sweden and Norway.
* Finland has only one natural site which also seems wrong.
* The Baltics only have one Natural site. Estonian islands are nice.
* Ukraine is also really empty re WHS.

Author winterkjm
Partaker
#15 | Posted: 5 May 2020 12:12 
nfmungard:
USA
Brainstorming USA, we should maybe try to find one per state? Our American community members should have a better feeling for how well the states are covered.

Based on size this might seem appropriate, but each state offers vastly different potential world heritage sites. Some states really have no potential sites.

For example, California has the most National Parks with nine; Alaska has eight National Parks. Utah has five; Colorado has four. Naturally, these areas would have more potential for natural sites.

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