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Author Colvin
Partaker
#76 | Posted: 9 Apr 2020 08:30 
warwass:
Full Name of the site: Rub' al-Khali, Empty Quarter

I definitely agree that the Empty Quarter is significant, which is why I earlier proposed 'Uruq Bani Mu'arid Protected Area in Saudi Arabia (see page 2). This TWHS includes both the western edge of the Empty Quarter, but also an area that Saudi Arabia is working to reintroduce the Arabian Oryx. The protected area is also home to bot sand and mountain gazelles.

Author Jurre
Partaker
#77 | Posted: 9 Apr 2020 09:05 
Khuft:
The most glaringly missing in my opinion is Marib, capital of the kingdom of Saba.

As the Unesco description makes mention of it, I take it the Great Marib Dam is included in this site?

Author Jurre
Partaker
#78 | Posted: 9 Apr 2020 09:18 
This looks beautiful on Wikipedia

Full name of site: Jibla and its surroundings
Country: Yemen
TWHS?: yes (see title)
Short description of site: (Unesco & Wikipedia) Jibla is the ancient capital of Yemen, from 1064 to 1138. Following the death of Sulayhid dynasty ruler Ali al-Sulayhi, Ahmad became the de jure ruler of Yemen, but he was unable to rule being paralysed and bedridden. He gave all of his power to his wife Arwa, one of her first actions was to move the capital from Sana'a to Jibla. She built a new palace at Jibla, and transformed the old palace into a great mosque where she was eventually buried. The city is perched against a mountain flanc and two stone bridges lead over two river gorges. The city forms a cultural landscape with its surroundings, which comprises many stone constructions and fatimid monuments. The aquaduct still leads water from the mountains to the city.
Criteria: Cultural

Author warwass
Partaker
#79 | Posted: 9 Apr 2020 10:57 
Jurre:
This looks beautiful on Wikipedia

Full name of site: Jibla and its surroundings

Indeed, it is a nice and interesting place, especially the museum in the palace; and I am for it!!!
And would like to go back to Yemen one day...

Author Jurre
Partaker
#80 | Posted: 9 Apr 2020 11:25 
clyde:
sheik zayed mosque as an outstanding modern mosque

jonathanfr:
To complete the modern arcuitecture in Arab countries, there is the Hassan II mosque in Casablanca.

If we're looking at modern architecture or modern engineering feats, and combine that with the Arab States, aren't we logically looking at the UAE, for example with the Burj Khalifa and the Palm Islands? As they have had a significant impact on the surrounding environment, I would not propose the Palm Islands, even though they are a huge engineering feat and are comparable with earthworks of early civilisations. Maybe the Palm Islands can be seen as a 21st century version of those?

Full Name of the site: Burj Khalifa
Country: United Arab Emirates
TWHS: No
Short description: (Wikipedia) The Burj Khalifa has been the tallest structure and building in the world since 2009. Critical reception to Burj Khalifa has been generally positive, and the building has received many awards. The design is derived from Islamic architecture. As the tower rises from the flat desert base, there are 27 setbacks in a spiral pattern, decreasing the cross section of the tower as going upward and creating convenient outdoor terraces. (cf. The spiral minaret at the Great Mosque of Samarra) These setbacks are arranged and aligned in a way that minimizes vibration wind loading from eddy currents and vortices.
Criteria: Cultural

Author Jurre
Partaker
#81 | Posted: 9 Apr 2020 11:25 
warwass:
Indeed, it is a nice and interesting place, especially the museum in the palace; and I am for it!!!
And would like to go back to Yemen one day...

You have visited this site?

Author Assif
Partaker
#82 | Posted: 9 Apr 2020 12:29 
Jurre:
Palm Islands

I was thinking of these too. Despite the engineering achievements their environmental impact has been often regarded as disastrous. From town planning point of view, there are also multiple points of criticism (lack of public spaces, uninspiring architecture, lack of transport concepts etc.). I wonder how this should affect our judgements of what otherwise would be comparable with historical megalomanic projects. Just for comparison, the building of the Moai on Easter Island largely destroyed the island's ecology, rendering it barren and largely infertile. I don't think anyone would come up with this argument against inscribing the Moais though.
For understandable reasons most of us forum members, who were raised and still live in functioning democracies, have a strong (justifiable!) bias against authoritarian regimes. The UAE, with its justice system partially based on Sharia law, exploitation of foreign workers, wealth based on the export of polluting petroleum etc., raises a high degree of antagonism, which might lead us to judge its monuments negatively. However, would we apply similar standards to Western sites which evolved in similarly repressive environments (or worse)? Should the political/social system of a culture reflect on the OUV of its monuments?

Author Assif
Partaker
#83 | Posted: 9 Apr 2020 12:31 
Jurre:
Burj Khalifa

And I back Burj Khalifa.

Author Jurre
Partaker
#84 | Posted: 9 Apr 2020 16:22 | Edited by: Jurre 
Proposals about the Atlas have already been done for Morocco, but I would like to add another one:

Full name of site: Djebel Babor Nature Reserve
Country: Algeria
TWHS?: no
Short description of site: (Wikipedia) The reserve is within the Babor Mountains. Much of this area is forested with Mediterranean conifer and mixed forests, which is a Global 200 ecoregion, which occupies the high mountain ranges of North Africa and southern Spain. The reserve offers one of the few remaining disjunctive habitats for the endangered Barbary macaque. The reserve is also a significant birdwatching area and is a home to the endangered Algerian nuthatch.
Criteria: Natural

EDIT:
But maybe, this park in Morocco, which is also a natural park in the Atlas and houses barbary macaques, is a better representative:

Full name of site: Ifrane National Park
Country: Morocco
TWHS?: no
Short description of site: (Wikipedia) Ifrane National Park is a national park located in the Middle Atlas mountain range, which is part of the Global 200 Mediterranean conifer and mixed forests ecoregion. Much of the park is forested with Atlas cedar. It is one of the few remaining habitats for the Barbary macaque. It was stated that the park contains 1/10 of the Atlas Cedar in the world, 1/4 of the world's population of the Barbary Macaque, and two Ramsar sites: the two lakes Afennourir and Tifounassine.
The park contains a rich fauna. Apart from the Barbary macaque, one can find wild Barbary boars, the golden jackal, the serval, the caracal, and the common genet. Afennourir Lake is a Ramsar Site where you can find a shelter for bird-watching. The bird species that can be found in the lake include coots, snipes, and egrets.
Criteria: Natural

Author Assif
Partaker
#85 | Posted: 10 Apr 2020 09:44 | Edited by: Assif 
Full name of site: Monasteries of the Judean Desert
Country: Palestine
TWHS?: yes, as El-Bariyah
Short description of site: Mar Saba and Saints John and George of Choziba are both in continuous use since the 5th century. They are good representatives of monastic isolation in the Orthodox Church, with topographically difficult access in the middle of the Judean desert. They survived centuries of Muslim dominance around them and show influence of Orthodox pilgrimage from the 19th century.
Links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar_Saba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monastery_of_Saints_John_and_George_of_Choziba
Criteria: Cultural
Comparable sites: Sainte Catherine (Egypt), Mount Athos (Greece), Chouf (Lebanon)

Author Assif
Partaker
#86 | Posted: 10 Apr 2020 10:02 | Edited by: Assif 
Full name of site: Wadi Natuf and Shuqba Cave
Country: Palestine
TWHS?: yes
Short description of site: Wadi Natuf is the largest archaeological site of the prevalent prehistoric Natufian culture found around the Levant (Palestine, Israel, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon) for which it serves as its type site. It showcases the remains of a sedentary palaeolithic culture of hunter-gatherers and therefore documents a transition to the later neolithic settlements such as nearby Jericho. It features graves, houses and agricultural tools. It is highly at risk due to road construction and its use for garbage dumping.
Links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuqba_cave
Criteria: Cultural
Comparable sites: Carmel Caves (Israel), Göbekli Tepe (Turkey)

Author Jurre
Partaker
#87 | Posted: 10 Apr 2020 10:17 
Assif:
Full name of site: Monasteries of the Judean Desert

I support this.

Author Jurre
Partaker
#88 | Posted: 10 Apr 2020 10:32 | Edited by: Jurre 
Full name of site: Alexandria, ancient remains and the new library
Country: Egypt
TWHS?: yes (see title)
Short description of site: This site would encompass the ancient remains of the rich history of Alexandria, a city founded in c. 331 BC by Alexander the Great. It was an important center of Hellenistic civilization and remained the capital of Ptolemaic Egypt and Roman and Byzantine Egypt for almost 1,000 years. Hellenistic Alexandria was best known for the Lighthouse, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World, its Great Library, and the Necropolis, one of the Seven Wonders of the Middle Ages. Among the ancient remains are Pompey's Pillar, the ruins of the temple of Serapis (the famous Serapeum), the Roman Amphitheater, the archeological site of Kom El Deka with a theatre, Roman-era baths and a residential quarter, and the ancient necropolises, e.g. the catacombs known as Kom El Shoqafa. Underwater remains along the coast of the Aboukir area and the eastern port of Alexandria are also pat of the site. Included in the site is also the New Library, or Bibliotheca Alexandrina, built near the site of the old Library and inaugurated in 2002.
Criteria: Cultural

Author Jurre
Partaker
#89 | Posted: 10 Apr 2020 13:27 
Another one that was on the previous Top Missing list, but will it stand up against the excellent propositions of this edition?

Full name of site: Ebla (Tell Mardikh)
Country: Syria
TWHS?: yes (see title)
Short description of site: (Wikipedia) Ebla was one of the earliest kingdoms in Syria. Its remains constitute a tell located about 55 km (34 mi) southwest of Aleppo near the village of Mardikh. Ebla was an important center throughout the 3rd millennium BC and in the first half of the 2nd millennium BC. Its discovery proved the Levant was a center of ancient, centralized civilization equal to Egypt and Mesopotamia and ruled out the view that the latter two were the only important centers in the Near East during the Early Bronze Age. The first Eblaite kingdom has been described as the first recorded world power. The archeological site comprises the remains of several palaces, temples, gates, the acropolis and royal necropolises. Unfortunately, the site has suffered damages and looting due to the Syrian Civil War.
Criteria: Cultural

Author watkinstravel
Partaker
#90 | Posted: 10 Apr 2020 15:14 
I'll second Musandam, Ras al Had and Alexandria. Lots of great proposals for this region too. This is going to be hard to select.

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