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Author Jurre
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#811 | Posted: 27 Nov 2022 11:53 | Edited by: Jurre 
Connection: Baroque

Route of Santiago de Compostela - Sobrado Abbey: "The monumental new Baroque abbey church was dedicated in 1708." (Wikipedia)

Connection: Cistercian

Route of Santiago de Compostela - Sobrado Abbey "is a Cistercian monastery". (Wikipedia)

Connection: Clock Tower

Route of Santiago de Compostela - Clock towers of the cathedrals of Lugo, Oviedo and Bilbao

Connection: Destroyed or damaged by Earthquake

Route of Santiago de Compostela - Lugo Cathedral: The "Renaissance retablo at the high altar (...) was destroyed in the 1755 Lisbon earthquake and fragments of it are housed in the church." (Lugo Cathedral - Wikipedia)

Connection: Marian Shrines

Route of Santiago de Compostela - Lugo Cathedral is dedicated to the Virgin Mary ("Catedral de Santa MarĂ­a de Lugo"). The cathedral houses the Chapel of the Virgin of the Big Eyes ("Virgen de los Ojos Grandes"). She is the patron saint of the city of Lugo. (Spanish Wikipedia)

Connection: Walled cities

Route of Santiago de Compostela - The Roman Walls of Lugo

Author Alikander99
Partaker
#812 | Posted: 29 Nov 2022 10:01 
Solivagant
I think there's a point to be made. It's not the same to not specify and to not mention. Lake baikal IS CLEARLY in the list for It's importance to the study of endemism. It just happens that the file doesn't mention what categories lake baikal shines in. I think in those case, as jurre offers, a reputable source should be enough to get them in. For example one comparing one to one lake baikal to other accepted sites in the connection, which wouldn't be too hard.

However, i disagree with Jurre on the requirements for endemicity. What number of endemisms we consider relevant depends a lot on the particular taxum. It's certainlu not the same to have three endemic beetles or three endemic mammals.

Thus my proposal IS as follow:

If a site doesn't specify the taza but is compared one to one and seen as comparable to an already accepted site from the connection by a reputable source (aka a scientific article from a main publisher), then It should be included.

It's not perfect, but at least I think this method would let the most obvious cases in (lake baikal) without letting everyone in.

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#813 | Posted: 29 Nov 2022 19:13 
UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists

Mausoleum of the First Qin Emperor: Xi'an wind and percussion ensemble
https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/xian-wind-and-percussion-ensemble-00212?RL=00212

Palmeral of Elche: Mystery play of Elche
https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/mystery-play-of-elche-00018?RL=00018

"World Heritage site potentially related" appears on some pages of intangible heritage items.
2 examples above.
By typing "World Heritage site potentially related" on Google, it seems there are other elements forgotten in our connection.
https://www.google.fr/search?q=%22World+Heritage+site+potentially+related%22&hl=fr&filter=0&biw=1536&bih=712&dpr=1.25

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#814 | Posted: 30 Nov 2022 04:15 
UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists

Angkor: Kun Lbokator, traditional martial arts in Cambodia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokator

https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/kun-lbokator-traditional-martial-arts-in-cambodia-01868?RL=01868

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#815 | Posted: 30 Nov 2022 04:58 | Edited by: jonathanfr 
UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists

Dubrovnik: Festivity of Saint Tryphon and the Kolo (chain dance) of Saint Tryphon, traditions of Croats from Boka Kotorska (Bay of Kotor) who live in the Republic of Croatia
"World Heritage site potentially related"
https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/festivity-of-saint-tryphon-and-the-kolo-chain-dance-of-saint-tryphon-traditions-of-croats-from-boka-kotorska-bay-of-kotor-who-live-in-the-republic-of-croatia-01891?RL=01891

Historic Cairo: Festivals related to the Journey of the Holy family in Egypt
"World Heritage site potentially related"
https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/festivals-related-to-the-journey-of-the-holy-family-in-egypt-01700?RL=01700

San Pedro de la Roca Castle: Knowledge of the light rum masters
"World Heritage site potentially related"
https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/knowledge-of-the-light-rum-masters-01724?RL=01724

Author elsslots
Admin
#816 | Posted: 30 Nov 2022 17:08 
jonathanfr:
Mausoleum of the First Qin Emperor: Xi'an wind and percussion ensemble
https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/xian-wind-and-percussion-ensemble-00212?RL=00212

I don't really see the connection with the mausoleum.

Author elsslots
Admin
#817 | Posted: 30 Nov 2022 17:09 
jonathanfr:
Palmeral of Elche: Mystery play of Elche
https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/mystery-play-of-elche-00018?RL=00018

Also no relation to the Palmeral

Author elsslots
Admin
#818 | Posted: 30 Nov 2022 17:15 
jonathanfr:
Dubrovnik: Festivity of Saint Tryphon and the Kolo (chain dance) of Saint Tryphon, traditions of Croats from Boka Kotorska (Bay of Kotor) who live in the Republic of Croatia
"World Heritage site potentially related"
https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/festivity-of-saint-tryphon-and-the-kolo-chain-dance-of-saint-tryphon-traditions-of-croats-from-boka-kotorska-bay-of-kotor-who-live-in-the-republic-of-croatia-01891?RL=01891

I'll link it to Kotor, that's where it stems from

Author elsslots
Admin
#819 | Posted: 30 Nov 2022 17:19 
jonathanfr:
San Pedro de la Roca Castle: Knowledge of the light rum masters

I see no relation to the castle.

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#820 | Posted: 2 Dec 2022 04:31 
Perhaps we could have 2 connections: the already existing one "UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists", and another which from the official UNESCO point of view suggests a relationship.

For example for alpinism, 5 WHS are identified as having a potential relationship.
https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/alpinism-01471

Author Jurre
Partaker
#821 | Posted: 2 Dec 2022 07:58 
Jurre:
Connection: Famous Bells

Belfries - The St. Rumbold's Tower in Mechelen has several named bells, of which Salvator is the biggest. The bells used to be set in motion by foot by the tower keeper and his helpers to be rung for the celebrations in the cathedral and also in emergency situations such as fire or in time of war. (Dutch Wikipedia)

Connection: Leaning Tower

Belfries - The belfry of Bruges is 83 meters high and leans slightly (87 centimeters towards Wollestraat). In the 13th century, the tower started to lean in a south-easterly direction, perhaps as a result of a filled in watercourse. A westward correction was applied to the elevation of the tower. To prevent further sagging, the corners of the tower were reinforced in 1554 with heavy pillars. (Dutch Wikipedia)

Connection: More than 500 steps to climb

Belfries - There are 515 steps to climb in the northern tower of the Cathedral of Our Lady in Antwerp. There are more steps leading up, but those are only accessible to staff. (Dutch Wikipedia)

Connection: Napoleon was here

Belfries - Napoleon ascended the St. Rumbold's Tower in Mechelen in 1803. (Dutch Wikipedia)

Connection: Renaissance

Belfries - Antwerp City Hall is a "Renaissance building [that] incorporates both Flemish and Italian influences". (Wikipedia)

Connection: Rococo

Belfries - City Hall of Lier is in the Brabant rococo style. (Dutch Wikipedia)

Connection: Sieges and Battles

Belfries - "Completed in 1565, [Antwerp City Hall] lasted hardly a decade before being burnt to a shell in the Spanish Fury of 1576." (Wikipedia)

Els, I'm not sure if you have seen these, but I also suggested these connections before.

Author elsslots
Admin
#822 | Posted: 2 Dec 2022 16:02 
jonathanfr:
and another which from the official UNESCO point of view suggests a relationship.

For example for alpinism, 5 WHS are identified as having a potential relationship.

I personally do not find it so strong - we carefully select the connections whether they are in the core zone etc. The "possibly linked" on the Intangible site pages seems just an automated geolocator thing to me. There seems to be no thinking behind it.

Author Jurre
Partaker
#823 | Posted: 2 Dec 2022 20:05 
Connection: Notable examples of multiple speciation in one site

Gondwana Rainforests - "(...) six of the seven species of mountain frogs lived solely in the cool, upland mountain rainforests within the Gondwana World Heritage-listed national parks" (Source)

Author Zoe
Partaker
#824 | Posted: 2 Dec 2022 23:29 
Have we dismissed the Sir David Attenborough connection before? I recently watched Frozen Planet II with Wrangel, and obviously it's already more than 3 WHS in his documentaries (Galapagos and Serengeti just as examples) but I guess this opens up other documentaries to be included and also I'm not sure which of his documentaries are "his" or just have him attached in some way.

Author elsslots
Admin
#825 | Posted: 3 Dec 2022 04:43 
Zoe:
Have we dismissed the Sir David Attenborough connection before?

No, not consciously. Looking at his filmography, it may include every natural WHS. They're also often just fragments. I would be OK with adding it, but it needs someone who knows his films well to give a bit of detail to the connected individual sites and what was filmed there. Otherwise, it would just be a list of Great Barrier Reef, Serengeti etc.

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