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Author Jurre
Partaker
#496 | Posted: 14 Dec 2021 10:21 
Els, I think something went wrong when copying the texts for Querétaro and Oaxaca and Monte Alban.

Author elsslots
Admin
#497 | Posted: 14 Dec 2021 11:14 
fixed!

Author Jurre
Partaker
#498 | Posted: 14 Dec 2021 11:36 | Edited by: Jurre 
elsslots:
fixed!

Thank you!

Colvin:
Good updates, Jurre!

Here are some more from Mexico:

Thanks for the other connections, Colvin. I overlooked those.

Author Jurre
Partaker
#499 | Posted: 14 Dec 2021 11:46 | Edited by: Jurre 
Connection: Reportedly haunted locations

Great Wall - "The Great Wall of China is considered by believers to be haunted. The TV series "Destination Truth" sent an expedition to spend the night investigating these supernatural reports." (Wikipedia - List of reportedly haunted locations in China)

Macao - "Calçada do Amparo, an alley located behind the Ruins of St. Paul's, is believed to be haunted by ghosts of overweight people who were killed during the Second Sino-Japanese War, during the period of severe food shortage in Macau. Guia Hill is said by believers to be haunted by hungry ghosts targeting joggers at night." (Wikipedia - List of reportedly haunted locations in China)

Cartagena - Ghostly sightings have been reported at the Naval Museum of the Caribbean, the former San Pablo Psychiatric Hospital and the Santa Clara Hotel. (Wikipedia - List of reportedly haunted locations in Colombia)

Ancient Thebes - Valley of the Kings: Eyewitnesses have reported seeing the vision of an Egyptian Pharaoh in the Valley of the Kings, wearing his golden collar, headdress, and riding a fiery chariot with black phantom horses. (Wikipedia - List of reportedly haunted locations)

Paris, Banks of the Seine - Notre-Dame: "Stories have (...) been told of ghosts of women who can be seen flitting between gargoyles, as well as spirits of powerful French figures who wander inside its walls. / Jardin des Tuileries: "The Red Man of the Tuileries, as he is known, was a butcher murdered on the orders of Catherine de Médici for the crime of knowing too much about the private affairs of the crown. (...) Legend has it that his appearances foreshadow dramatic moments in the nation's history." (Haunted Places in France: 10 Spooky Locations and the Stories Behind It) & (The 8 Most Haunted Places In France)

Rome - The Colosseum "was reported to be haunted according to some witnesses and researchers' testimonies. Visitors have described observing ghostly figures wandering the staircases. There have been reports of hearing the cheers and screams from a crowd while no sign of people in the particular section. The vaults were, reportedly, active by the spirits of gladiators waiting to fight, actors waiting to perform, and prisoners becoming prepared for execution. Several accounts of cold touches or pushes have been felt by both tourists and employees. Sounds of animals have also been heard within the vaults." (Wikipedia - List of reportedly haunted locations)

Florence - "The Hotel Burchianti in Florence has become the scene of many ghostly rumours. Not the most chilling of all supernatural tales, but guests have claimed to have seen visions (of) both a child skipping down the hallways, as well as a phantom woman knitting in a chair. Stories of the hotel's Fresco room are not so innocent, with reports of guests feeling an icy breath sensation." (Top 10 haunted hotels)

Petra - "The residence of djinns, supernatural beings in Islam according to the Bedouin's saying." (Wikipedia - List of reportedly haunted locations)

Puebla - The Instituto Cultural Poblano is haunted by ghosts from the different stages of its history. The Santa Mónica Religious Art Museum, a former convent, is also supposedly haunted by the lady of white, "apparitions of persons with antique clothing" wandering around the installations and nonexistent clocks sounding. The San Pedro Art Museum "is allegedly haunted by the ghosts of people buried under its courtyard when it was a hospital. Reports include the ghosts of a revolutionary soldier, people in old-fashioned clothes, and a little girl playing with a ball." (Wikipedia - List of reportedly haunted locations in Mexico)

Author Astraftis
Partaker
#500 | Posted: 14 Dec 2021 19:03 | Edited by: Astraftis 
I intervene between remote and spooky connections to propose some more pastoral ones which I have not been able to find among the existing ones: les plus beaux villages de France e i borghi piú belli d'Italia, both two similar organizations promoting beautiful villages in the respective countries. Indeed, more than one hosts or is part of a WHS!!!

Here is what I could find for each series (I also put some T-related ones in parentheses... for future reference?):

- I piú bei borghi d'Italia ('Italy's most beautiful hamlets')

(Orta San Giulio - T of Lago Maggiore and d'Orta)
* Vernazza - part of the Cinque terre
* Sabbioneta - Mantova & Sabbioneta
* Palmanova - Venetian fortifications
* Arquà Petrarca - near Vicenza, it has one (unfortunately now inaccessible) pile dwelling in its territory
(Brisighella - tangentially associated to one component of the T of Emilian evaporites)
(Subiaco - part of the Benedictine monasteries T)
(Civita di Bagnoregio - T and upcoming nomination!)
* Atrani, Conca dei Marini, Furore - all part of the Costiera amalfitana
* Castellabate - in Cilento, near punta Licosa
* Alberobello
* Monte Sant'Angelo - Langobards!
* Morano Calabro - part of the ancestral beech forest of Pollinello should be in its territory, it's not so clear
(Stilo - T of the Cattolica di Stilo)
* Militello Val di Catania, Palazzolo Acreide - part of Val di Noto
* Cefalú - Arabo-Norman Palermo and cathedrals of Cefalú and Monreale

I might have missed some village in Val d'Orcia, some bordering a beech forest or other sparse WHSs, hm.
Now for France, even if I am less knowledgeable...

- Les plus beaux villages de France ('France's most beautiful villages')

*Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port, Vézelay, Saint-Guilhem-le-Désert, Conques, Estaing, Saint-Bertrand-de-Comminges, La Romieu - all on the French Camino
*Villefranche-de-Conflent - Vauban's fortifications
*Vézelay - originally also inscribed as its own WHS (thanks, Jurre!)

... and, well, I've not been able to locate others in France! So only two WHSs would be represented by this connection. But I would propose to just conflate both lists into a single connection Most beautiful villages, possibly including other similar organizations in other countries.

Author Jurre
Partaker
#501 | Posted: 14 Dec 2021 19:15 
Astraftis:
Vézelay

Vézelay is also a WHS on its own.

Author Astraftis
Partaker
#502 | Posted: 15 Dec 2021 06:04 | Edited by: Astraftis 
Jurre
Great, so now, thanks to double inscriptions and the overextensive French serial sites (but beffrois have no representant, it seems), we reach the perfect number for the plus beaux villages too! :-D I've added it!

Author elsslots
Admin
#503 | Posted: 15 Dec 2021 06:11 | Edited by: elsslots 
Astraftis:
But I would propose to just conflate both lists into a single connection Most beautiful villages, possibly including other similar organizations in other countries.

That may be a better idea than the individual connections. There is a (silent) rule for the connections that the individual sites must not all be in 1 country, as sites in 1 country have dozens of things in common. That's why we rejected the beautiful villages idea before.
Another "rule" is not to connect the same WHS over and over again (Prague, Venice, Paris etc).

Mexico has a beautiful villages scheme too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pueblos_M%C3%A1gicos

Author Jurre
Partaker
#504 | Posted: 15 Dec 2021 06:57 
elsslots:
Mexico has a beautiful villages scheme too

Wallonia in Belgium too (Les plus beaux villages de Wallonie), but none can be linked to a WHS.

Author Jurre
Partaker
#505 | Posted: 15 Dec 2021 13:56 
Connection: Reportedly haunted locations

Ayutthaya - "There are many rumors about cursed treasures and ghosts watching these treasures. (...) Especially at Wat Kudi Dao, Prince Birabongse Bhanudej saw Pu Som Fao Sap, the headless male ghost, (...) in December 1960." (Wikipedia - List of reportedly haunted locations in Thailand)

Connection: Legends and Folk Myths

Kaeng Krachan Forest - The "ethnic group Karen believe this is unsuitable place according to the beliefs of Chinese's Feng Shui, similar to [the] Bermuda Triangle." (Wikipedia - List of reportedly haunted locations in Thailand)

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#506 | Posted: 16 Dec 2021 05:10 

Author Jurre
Partaker
#507 | Posted: 16 Dec 2021 19:10 | Edited by: Jurre 
Connection: Cultural sites connected to Cliffs

City of Luxembourg - "The Bock is a promontory in the north-eastern corner of Luxembourg City's old historical district. Offering a natural fortification, its rocky cliffs tower above the River Alzette, which surrounds it on three sides." (Wikipedia - Bock (Luxembourg))

Connection: Louis XIV

City of Luxembourg - "In 1684, on behalf of Louis XIV, Vauban succeeded in capturing the city of Luxembourg during a month-long siege under which the Bock fortifications were completely flattened." (Wikipedia - Bock (Luxembourg))

Connection: Sieges and Battles

City of Luxembourg - The City and its fortifications were besieged many times in their history. The castle "was damaged, destroyed, captured and rebuilt on several occasions as the Burgundians (1473), the Habsburgs (1477), and the Spaniards (1555) attacked and took the fortress. (...) In 1684, on behalf of Louis XIV, Vauban succeeded in capturing the city of Luxembourg during a month-long siege. (...) In 1794 during the French Revolutionary Wars, the city held out against a French siege for seven months. (Wikipedia - Bock (Luxembourg))

Connection: Napoleon was here

City of Luxembourg - Napoleon visited the Bock casemates in 1804. (Wikipedia - Bock (Luxembourg))

Connection: Legends and Folk Myths

City of Luxembourg - "The Counts of Luxembourg (...) claimed descent from Melusine through their ancestor Siegfried." Melusine magically made "the Castle of Luxembourg on the Bock rock (...) appear the morning after their wedding. On her terms of marriage, she too required one day of absolute privacy each week. Alas, Sigfrid (...) "could not resist temptation, and on one of the forbidden days he spied on her in her bath and discovered her to be a mermaid. When he let out a surprised cry, Melusina caught sight of him, and her bath immediately sank into the solid rock, carrying her with it. Melusina surfaces briefly every seven years as a beautiful woman or as a serpent, holding a small golden key in her mouth. Whoever takes the key from her will set her free and may claim her as his bride."" (Wikipedia - Melusine)

Author Jurre
Partaker
#508 | Posted: 17 Dec 2021 04:59 | Edited by: Jurre 
Connection: Goethe

City of Luxembourg - "The mighty structures of the former Luxembourg fortress (...) were so impressive that Goethe, while on a short visit to the city in 1792, was inspired to write the following words: "He who has not seen Luxembourg simply cannot picture these war structures, juxtaposed and superimposed as they are (...)." The famous writer expressed his greatest awe of the city of Luxembourg, however, in the following comment: "There is so much greatness and grace here, so much gravity combined with gentleness, that one wishes Poussin had employed his wonderful talent in such an environment."" (Luxembourg City Tourism site)

Connection: Painted by JMW Turner

City of Luxembourg - "The English landscape painter William Turner captured the bold defence structures in expressive watercolours." (Luxembourg City Tourism site) + Example

Author Jurre
Partaker
#509 | Posted: 17 Dec 2021 10:13 | Edited by: Jurre 
Connection: Jesuits

City of Luxembourg - The Notre-Dame Cathedral "was originally a Jesuit church". (Wikipedia - Notre-Dame Cathedral, Luxembourg)

Connection: Gothic

City of Luxembourg - The Notre-Dame Cathedral "is a noteworthy example of late gothic architecture". (Wikipedia - Notre-Dame Cathedral, Luxembourg)

Connection: Benedictines

City of Luxembourg - "The old Altmünster Benedictine abbey was destroyed in 1542 so that the Benedictine monks built a new abbey in the suburb of the Grund. The Neumünster Abbey consisted of a church and four wings enclosing an inner courtyard. At the end of the 18th century, (...) the abbey was altered so as to house a military hospital which functioned until 1867." (Luxembourg City Tourism site)

Connection: Hospitals

City of Luxembourg - The Neumünster Abbey - "At the end of the 18th century, (...) the abbey was altered so as to house a military hospital which functioned until 1867." (Luxembourg City Tourism site)

Connection: Prison

City of Luxembourg - The Neumünster Abbey - "After the State took over the premises, Neumünster was used as prison for male inmates up to 1980." (Luxembourg City Tourism site)

Author Jurre
Partaker
#510 | Posted: 18 Dec 2021 05:26 
I think there's a mistake in the Most beautiful villages Connection for Vézelay. In the rationale for Vézelay, it says Villefranche-de-Conflent.

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