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Author elsslots
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#1 | Posted: 6 Jan 2009 12:25 
Art made of non-traditional materials:
1. Jungfrau - ice sculptures at the top of Jungfraujoch
2. Wielicka - carving in salt at the underground chapel
3. ???
(the also suggested ossuary at Sedlec is outside of the borders of the Kutna Hora WHS)

Author Xeres
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#2 | Posted: 7 Jan 2009 06:54 
Quebec City has an ice sculpture contest as well

Author Assif
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#3 | Posted: 14 Jan 2009 04:03 
The sculpture contest in Quebec City isn't a part of the WHS (unlike the Jungfraujoch where the exhibition is permanent). Any other suggestion perhaps?

Author Solivagant
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#4 | Posted: 14 Jan 2009 05:15 
It depends I guess on what is meant/implied by "Art made of non traditional materials". Gaudi's sculptures in eg Park Guell with their stone tree trunks etc and mosaic/concrete dragon might be regarded as such??

Author Assif
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#5 | Posted: 14 Jan 2009 08:13 
I think traditional (or standard) materials in Western art are wood, ivory, metal, concrete, stone, cloth, pottery, glass, plastic, leather/fur/animal bones and amber (hope I didn't skip any).

Author Assif
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#6 | Posted: 11 Oct 2012 15:26 
Mud volcanoes:

Gobustan, Yellowstone, ??

Author Solivagant
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#7 | Posted: 11 Oct 2012 17:36 | Edited by: Solivagant 
There may well be 3 WHS containing "Mud Volcanoes" but I am not sure that Gobustan is one of them.
We visited Gobustan in summer of 2000 - long before it became a WHS in 2007. The mud volcanoes are quite a long way from the rock art sites. I remember quite a drive from the single rock art site we visited, past the "furthest east Roman inscription" stone which appears in Wiki and down towards the coast. We were not shown any "Mud volcanoes" adjacent to the rock art site we visited.

I have tried to work out exactly what the boundaries of the inscribed area might be in relation to the mud volcanoes - there is a map in the Nomination file which shows the inscribed areas as 3 separate locations within the Park. All are related to small mountains with cliffs where the rock art is carved and are very limited in size.
"It lies within the Gobustan State Historical-Artistic Reserve and is made of three rock art sites, namely Jinghirdagh mountain-Yazylytepe hill, Boyukdash mountain and Kichikdash mountain, forming a Serial Nomination. All together the three sites cover an area of 537,22 hectares within a proposed Buffer Zone of 3096.34 hectares, totalling an area of 3633.56 hectares"
The only references to the mud volcanoes are these 2
a. "A peculiar feature of the landscape are three flat-topped hills, named Boyukdash, Kichikdash and Jinghirdagh mountains, covered by large calcareous blocks (Absheron limestone), which were detached from the upper levels when the lower softer levels eroded. These mountains stand by separate elevations among the mud volcanoes, called by the local population "Pil-pile"
b. "A muddy-hill relief is developed in the area of the reserve, where mud volcanoes are of a great significance. Mud volcanoes can be huge and high, like the Turagay (407 m. on the sea level), but also small as the group of mud volcanoes on the south of the reserve. These volcanoes despite the fact that are outside (pratically on the border) with the Reserve are very visited by tourists, being one of the most interesting attraction of the area."

This doesn't provide clear evidence either way but I think we can safely say that the boundaries of the inscribed site were constructed WITHIN the larger reserve area to showcase/preserve the rock art and not the mud volcanoes. But that still leaves the possibility that the inscribed boundary includes (at least some of) the mud volcanoes.

I found this on the Web which describes a drive which includes both the mud volcanoes AND the Petrolglyphs
"This trip is driving from the Gobustan Mud Volcanos to the top of the Gobustan hill above the petroglyphs. It would also be a good hike. Driving south from Baku, turn right off the highway in Gobustan at the big rock sign to the petroglyphs.
Drive up to the right and over the overpass across the rail line. Then left at the T junction to drive south to the mud volcanoes.
After wandering around the mud volcanoes, you can return and drive to the visitors centre to see the rock carvings. If you follow my track up to the top of the ridge, there are some fantastic views out to the Caspian and to the west"

http://www.everytrail.com/view_trip.php?trip_id=70269

If you compare this map with the one in the nomination file (which, unfortunately is not very clear and doesn't include a scale) I am pretty sure that the location of the rock carvings visited by this guy is on the ridge in the centre of the Nomination file map.. This is the main visited Rock Art site of the 3, contains the museum/visitors centre - and was the one we visited in 2000. The nomination file map shows another inscribed area south of this (as well as one further north) but I believe, from the road systems shown on both maps, that this southern inscribed area of rock art is on a hill which is still north of the mud volcanoes.

Dopes anyone have alternative information?

Author Durian
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#8 | Posted: 11 Oct 2012 23:34 
elsslots:
Art made of non-traditional materials:


Is this possible? Horyuji's Tamamushi Shrine is inlaid by beetlewings, but it is not western art as Assif explained.

Author elsslots
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#9 | Posted: 8 Dec 2012 05:46 
Comments: REGISTERED AS ARCHITECT WAS STILL ALIVE :

-BRASILIA
-SYDNEY

third? ...

Author Durian
Partaker
#10 | Posted: 8 Dec 2012 07:02 
Louvre Glass Pyramid of I.M. Pei

Author elsslots
Admin
#11 | Posted: 8 Dec 2012 07:30 
Durian:
Louvre Glass Pyramid of I.M. Pei

I'd rather have another one, as Paris wasn't made a WHS because of this glass pyramid. Probably I should add: "name of architect must be mentioned in the AB evaluation"

Author Khuft
Partaker
#12 | Posted: 8 Dec 2012 07:43 
elsslots:

I'd rather have another one, as Paris wasn't made a WHS because of this glass pyramid. Probably I should add: "name of architect must be mentioned in the AB evaluation"


And I was going to suggest Thebes (because of the New Gourna village by Hassan Fathy - who died in 1989).... The AB evaluation is of no help in this case - it's not even 3 pages long.

Author Khuft
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#13 | Posted: 8 Dec 2012 08:00 
What about the Bahai site?

The AB mentions the terraced gardens in Haifa, which were built between 1990 and 2001, by Fariborz Sahba (who's still alive)?

Author elsslots
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#14 | Posted: 8 Dec 2012 08:38 
Khuft:
terraced gardens in Haifa

Yep!

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#15 | Posted: 9 Dec 2012 05:11 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Stilt Houses
WHS associated with "stilt architecture" by which dwellings are constructed on wooden stilts to place them above high water level and to prevent them from sinking into mud
Venice Was the original means by which humans colonised the area and through to recent times the principle of building on wooden piles has been adopted
Prehistoric Pile houses

Unfortunately none of the world's more famous "stilt house" locations has yet been inscribed (Kampong Ayer, Nzulezu, Ganvie). I have seen the technology used in coastal Norway but can't find any reference under Vega, Bryggen etc

House boats
WHS where houseboats are a significant part of the inscribed site's landscape/culture. "Houseboats" are defined as floating structures used by local inhabitants as full time dwellings (i.e excluding "holiday lets" etc though these may also be present in such locations). The use of such floating dwellings within the location should have a significant cultural and historic aspect
Ha Long Bay "A community of around 1,600 people live on Hạ Long Bay in four fishing villages: Cửa Vạn, Ba Hang, Cống Tu and Vng Ving in Hng Thắng commune, Hạ Long city. They live on floating houses and are sustained through fishing and marine aquaculture (cultivating marine biota), plying the shallow waters for 200 species of fish and 450 different kinds of molluscs" (Wiki)
Amsterdam. See http://jheeck.home.xs4all.nl/boot1eng.html

Rideau Canal has lots of houseboats but these seem to be recent arrival and to be mainly for hire. I think Hoi An has some, but outside the inscribed area

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