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Out or in doubt #30

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Author elsslots
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#1 | Posted: 16 Jul 2017 08:54 
Starting a new series...

Order of Cluny
Caspar pointed out that Prieuré Notre-Dame de La Charité-sur-Loire is not part of the Loire WHS, but of the French Route to Compostela. That means that we now have only 2 sites left for this connection and it is not complete anymore . Anyone for a third? http://www.worldheritagesite.org/connection/Order+of+Cluny

Author Assif
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#2 | Posted: 16 Jul 2017 11:26 | Edited by: Assif 
I would like to propose a connection about mammoths:

Caves of Ice Age Art - mammoth ivory objects
Chauvet Pont d'Arc - depictions of mammoth
a third one ??

We have got the Mammoth Cave in Dachstein as well as Mammoth NP, but both have nothing to do with actual mammoths.
Any suggestions?

Author Solivagant
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#3 | Posted: 16 Jul 2017 12:13 
Assif:
would like to propose a connection about mammoths:

Wrangel Island
From carbon dating of bones found there is considered the last pre-extinction refuge of Mammoths . See https://journals.uair.arizona.edu/index.php/radiocarbon/article/view/2015/2018

Author elsslots
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#4 | Posted: 16 Jul 2017 12:14 
Assif:
Caves of Ice Age Art - mammoth ivory objects
Chauvet Pont d'Arc - depictions of mammoth
a third one ??

Wrangel: woolly mammoths survived on Wrangel Island until 1650 BC, the most recent survival of all known mammoth populations.

Author elsslots
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#5 | Posted: 16 Jul 2017 12:14 
Great minds think alike

Author elsslots
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#6 | Posted: 18 Jul 2017 13:58 
Khomani - traditional hunting
-> Connection is limited to natural WHS "WHS inscribed on natural criteria where local inhabitants are allowed to hunt and kill significant protected species as part of their "way of life"

Author elsslots
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#7 | Posted: 18 Jul 2017 14:08 
Mbanza Kongo - Baroque
-> Please explain

Author elsslots
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#8 | Posted: 19 Jul 2017 14:09 
elsslots:
Order of Cluny
Caspar pointed out that Prieuré Notre-Dame de La Charité-sur-Loire is not part of the Loire WHS, but of the French Route to Compostela. That means that we now have only 2 sites left for this connection and it is not complete anymore . Anyone for a third? http://www.worldheritagesite.org/connection/Order+of+Cluny

A couple more have been sent to me (Spanish Route to Santiago, Dijon climats), so we can keep the connection

Author elsslots
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#9 | Posted: 28 Jul 2017 13:35 
Caves and Ice Age Art
Jura/Swiss Alps hotspot
>> a bit too far from the center, Lausanne, I guess

Author Durian
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#10 | Posted: 1 Aug 2017 23:01 
Okinoshima

I found that Okinoshima has connection in both Living indigenous religions and Shinto. I understand that since we have separate Shinto connection, there is no need to connect with Living indigenous religions again. Also if Okinoshima can have connection with Living indigenous religions, then all other WHS Shinto sites can be too.

Author jeanbon
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#11 | Posted: 2 Aug 2017 07:43 | Edited by: jeanbon 
Valley Loire.
On this site, it is written that in 2017 the boundary changed: "To include the Estate of Chenonceau as minory boundary modification". Does Chenonceau is now included in the buffer zone? Where did you read it?

EDIT: OK, i found it: http://whc.unesco.org/fr/list/933/documents/ and I totally agree with this boundary change

Author elsslots
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#12 | Posted: 23 Aug 2017 12:29 
Siena - Destroyed or damaged by fire
>> recently reported fire was suggested as a connection, but it seems it has done no permanent damage to the structure (seems a bit to minor to me to add it to the connection)
http://www.ansa.it/english/news/general_news/2017/08/17/siena-tower-catches-fire_0f53 ef5a-e974-46b0-a93e-57d21820ecc6.html

Author elsslots
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#13 | Posted: 7 Oct 2017 00:58 
Richtersveld - Potential Transboundary sites (Namibia's Fishriver canyon)
>> the canyon lies in Richtersveld Transfrontier Park, so geographically they are close. But I think seeing it as an extension is unlikely, as Richtersveld is a cultural site and Fishriver a natural one. Also, Fishriver has been on the tentative list longer. There's also no hint to it in Richtersveld's AB evaluation.

Author Colvin
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#14 | Posted: 31 Mar 2018 17:39 | Edited by: Colvin 
I just finished reading The Travels of Ibn Battutah, an autobiography of the greatest world travelers of his time, and it looks like there are several more World Heritage Sites that can be linked to the Connections page for Ibn Battuta. I've included a list of ones I noted, as well as quotes from Ibn Battuta about these sites from his book:

Medina of Tunis: So at last we reached the town of Tunis, and the townsfolk came out to welcome the travellers.

Hebron/Al-Khalil Old Town: Next I travelled from Ghazzah to the town of al-Khalil... Its mosque is an elegant edifice, substantially built, of striking beauty and imposing height, and constructed of squared stones.

Bethlehem: On my way there [Jerusalem] I visited Bait Lahm, the birthplace of Jesus -- on him be peace -- where the trace of the palm trunk is still to be seen surmounted by a vast edifice.

Tyre: For sheer masonry there is no more marvelous or more remarkable construction in any town in the world; for the sea surrounds it on three sides and on the fourth side is a wall underneath which ships may enter and come to anchor.

Crac des Chevaliers: From Tripoli I went inland, via Hisn al-Akrad [Crac des Chevaliers] and Hims, to the town of Hamah.

Aleppo: Halab [Aleppo] is one of the most illustrious of cities, and one which has no rival in beauty of plan and perfection of arrangement, and in the spaciousness and symmetrical disposition of the bazaars.

Baalbek: After Jabal Lubnan we came to the city of Ba'labakk [Baalbek], a beautiful and ancient place and one of the most agreeable cities in Syria, surrounded by glorious orchards and superb gardens, with flowing streams traversing its land, and rivalling Damascus in its boundless amenities.

Bosra: We marched to the town of Bosra, and thence to the castle of al-Karak.

Shushtar: I came next to the city of Tustar [Shushtar], which is situated at the edge of the plain in the dominion of the Atabek and the beginning of the mountains... It is encircled by the river called al-Azraq, which is a marvel... On both banks of the river, there are orchards and waterwheels...

Historic Jeddah: Following the pilgrimage of the year 730, I set out from Mecca (God Most High ennoble her) intending to travel to the land of al-Yaman, and came to Juddah [Jeddah], an old town on the sea coast, which is said to have been founded by the Persians.

Zabid: It is a great and populous city, and contains groves of palms, orchards and running streams -- in fact the pleasantest and most beautiful town in al-Yaman.

Land of Frankincense: We then sailed from Kulwa to the city of Zafar [al-Balid], which is at the extremity of the land of al-Yaman, on the coast of the Indian Sea... The people of this city are men of humility, good dispositions, virtue, and affection for strangers.

Ephesus: We went on to the city of Aya Suluq [Selçuk/Ephesus], a large and ancient city venerated by the Greeks, in which there is a great church [Church of Mary] built with huge stones, each measuring ten or less cubits in length and skilfully hewn.

Pergamon: We continued our journey from Maghnisiyah and came to the city of Barghamah [Bergama/Pergamon], a city in ruins, with a great and formidable fortress on top of a hill.

Bursa and Cumalikazik: We went on next day to the city of Bursa, a great and important city with fine bazaars and wide streets, surrounded on all sides by gardens and running springs.

Qutb Minar: In the northern court of the mosque is the minaret, which has no parallel in the lands of Islam. It is built of red stone, unlike the stone used for the rest of the mosque, for that is white, and the stones of the minaret are decoratively carved. The minaret itself is of great height...

Central Highlands: There are two tracks on the mountain leading to the Foot, one called the Baba track and the other the Mama track, meaning Adam and Eve (peace be upon them)... The blessed footprint, the Foot of our father Adam (God bless him and give him peace) is on a lofty black rock in a wide plateau.

Author Colvin
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#15 | Posted: 31 Mar 2018 17:50 
There are two possible other World Heritage Site links for Ibn Battuta, but I haven't found any evidence he traveled through the inscribed sections of these sites:

Ahwar of Southern Iraq: But I set out for al-Basrah... Our way lay alongside the Euphrates [probably an error, since Ibn Battuta stops at Wasit en route to Basra, and Wasit is on the Tigris River] by the place known as al-Idhar, which is a water-logged jungle of reeds, inhabited by nomad Arabs called al-Ma'adi.

Air and Ténéré: We first came to the country of Air, a land rich in pasture. People buy sheep from the Berbers there and cut their meat into strips, which they dry.

Has anyone encountered any research that shows Ibn Battuta passed through an inscribed section of either site?

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