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Author elsslots
Admin
#181 | Posted: 17 May 2015 23:17 
winterkjm:
Does this connection require the entire WHS to be only visitable by Replica, or just very important or key components?

- it's a cultural WHS
- the general public cannot enter the original site
- a full-size replica has been built nearby that you can visit
- it has to be the main component (not part of a city or something like that)

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#182 | Posted: 14 Jul 2017 01:32 
"Arctic" is pointing to "Antarctic Floristic Kingdom".

Author nfmungard
Partaker
#183 | Posted: 14 Jul 2017 01:42 
@Solivagant.

It's a bug. When I implemented the named look up for sites I was using a like to make everyone's life a bit easier. Fix is quick and with Els today.

Author elsslots
Admin
#184 | Posted: 14 Jul 2017 13:16 
nfmungard:
Fix is quick and with Els today.

fix live now

Author Durian
Partaker
#185 | Posted: 16 Jul 2017 02:55 
Okinoshima and dicrimanatory entry policie connection

With new official policy that no more visitor allow to visit island except selected Shinto priests and few academic on preservation, so the ban is developed from female to general public. Since woman can be Shinto priestress or academic so officially no woman is banned, but in reality we know that the ban is there.

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#186 | Posted: 16 Jul 2017 03:31 | Edited by: Solivagant 
"Arctic"
This Connection has a "definitional" and/or "assignment" issue

The current definition is "Sites that are located north of the Arctic Circle" and it "belongs to the Geography Connections"

The Arctic Circle is currently located at c 66.33 north - its location defined as being where "the northernmost point at which the noon sun is just visible on the northern winter solstice and the southernmost point at which the midnight sun is just visible on the northern summer solstice"

But Kujataa is located surprisingly far south at c 60.99 (though the many icebergs littering Tunulliarfik Fjord might suggest otherwise!) - this places it on approximately the same latitude as Bergen (60.39) and UK's Shetland islands (60.53)

Red Bay Whaling station is situated even further south at 51.73.

These 2 WHS clearly don't meet the current definition. But there are other definitions for "Arctic" - Wiki mentions "the region where the average temperature for the warmest month (July) is below 10 °C (50 °F); the northernmost tree line roughly follows the isotherm at the boundary of this region". This climatic definition would just include Kujataa (9.5) but NOT Red Bay (12.0).

A mistake has clearly occurred with Red Bay which is in no way "Arctic" - this seems to have originated in the ICOMOS AB evaluation which states- "Red Bay provides the earliest, most comprehensive and best preserved testimony of a pre-industrial whaling station in the Arctic zone". This statement is NOT Made in Canada's Nomination file which merely mentions that the area gets Arctic pack ice drifting south and the vegetation is primarily "Arctic-Alpine". It might have occurred because the whaling itself took place in the Arctic. Although the coastal area in which it sits is composed of grassland Red Bay also sits a long way SOUTH of Canada's Northern tree line!! ("The treeline is inland from the shoreline" - http://bobslabrador.com/places-to-visit/red-bay/ )

There is perhaps more of a debate about Kujataa - Its latitude is far too far south although its isotherm just fits. BUT - it is described by Denmark in the nomination as a "A sub arctic farming landscape in Greenland". According to the Nomination papers and earlier title was even to have been "Kujataa – an Arctic farming culture through a millennium"!!! There is no perfect answer to this -except that if Kujataa is to be left in the Arctic Connection then the definition needs to be changed!!

Author elsslots
Admin
#187 | Posted: 16 Jul 2017 09:22 
Solivagant:
But Kujataa is located surprisingly far south at c 60.99 (though the many icebergs littering Tunulliarfik Fjord might suggest otherwise!) - this places it on approximately the same latitude as Bergen (60.39) and UK's Shetland islands (60.53)

Red Bay Whaling station is situated even further south at 51.73.

Well spotted! I'd be in favour to leave them both out and leave the Arctic Circle definition.

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#188 | Posted: 12 Aug 2019 03:18 | Edited by: Solivagant 
I have noticed a slight logical/definitional problem re "Hospitals"
We have a separate Connection with 5 WHS for Asklepieion - "These healing temples were a place where patients would visit to receive either treatment or some sort of healing, whether it was spiritual or physical"
So - do we consider an "Asklepieion" to be a "Hosptial"?
One of the asklepieia has made it onto our current "Hospital" list - Epidaurus - "Asklepios was the Greek god of medicine, this site has temples devoted to him and hospital buildings"
We really need either to add ALL asklepieia to the hospital list or remove the current single one.
The latter seems better? But add to the hospital definition "Excluding asklepieia which have their own Connection" (link) ?

Author elsslots
Admin
#189 | Posted: 12 Aug 2019 11:26 
Solivagant:
The latter seems better? But add to the hospital definition "Excluding asklepieia which have their own Connection" (link) ?

Yes, seems better

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