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Author elsslots
Admin
#331 | Posted: 4 Jun 2018 11:16 
jonathanfr:
Centre historique de Tripoli / Mina (01/07/1996)

I wonder - is this a Renomination or just a technical glitch?

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#332 | Posted: 4 Jun 2018 11:26 | Edited by: jonathanfr 
elsslots:
I wonder - is this a Renomination or just a technical glitch?

Since the last Turkish sites, there were 1713 sites. Today with the return of this Lebanese site, we have 1714 sites. The site was proposed in 1996, had disappeared in 2016 and is revived today. It's curious, I find it too. It must be removed from our former tentative lists.

Author winterkjm
Partaker
#333 | Posted: 5 Jul 2018 13:38 

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#334 | Posted: 16 Jul 2018 10:06 

Author Khuft
Partaker
#335 | Posted: 16 Jul 2018 12:19 
jonathanfr:
Kebun Raya Bogor (Indonesia)http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/6353/

It will be tough to differentiate it from Singapore Botanical Gardens. I visited both a few years ago, and liked both (the layout of Bogor being very different from Singapore's) - but they do cover pretty much the same themes. Maybe Bogor can be added as an extension to Singapore instead of as a stand-alone site (politics permitting)?

Author winterkjm
Partaker
#336 | Posted: 23 Jul 2018 22:46 

Author winterkjm
Partaker
#337 | Posted: 23 Jul 2018 23:50 
Finland plans to update their Tentative List in 2018

"In 2018, the Finnish Heritage Agency is keeping the Finnish tentative list updated in cooperation with the nature services provided by Metsähallitus, is consulting local experts and Åland, and is drawing up a proposal for an updated tentative list, based on the consultations. The tentative list, updated according to the national world heritage strategy, will contain two to four sites. Together with the existing selection, the sites on the tentative list will form a credible, balanced and representative sample of Finland's most valuable cultural and natural sites."

https://www.museovirasto.fi/en/about-us/international-activities/international-conven tions

Author Jurre
Partaker
#338 | Posted: 24 Jul 2018 05:27 
winterkjm:
Manama, City of Trade, Multiculturalism and Religious Coexistence (20/07/2018)

Wow, this really is lumping all kinds of categories together in the hope that something will stick.

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#339 | Posted: 27 Jul 2018 16:39 | Edited by: jonathanfr 
Independence avenue, Minsk, Belarus
part of the transnational property nomination "Socialist Postwar Architecture in Central and Eastern Europe. 1940s-1950s" which was confirmed by Russia, Poland and Germany. Ukraine is considering its participation, too. Armenia has expressed its interest.
http://eng.belta.by/society/view/independence-avenue-to-be-added-to-belarus-unesco-te ntative-list-in-september-113164-2018/

Author Zoe
Partaker
#340 | Posted: 31 Jul 2018 06:12 
How do you find out when a tentative site has been removed from the UNESCO website? Do we have a raw log for the website?

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#341 | Posted: 31 Jul 2018 06:54 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Zoe:
How do you find out when a tentative site has been removed from the UNESCO website

I presume you mean "removed but not inscribed" rather than "inscribed but not removed from T List for some time thereafter" (some "never" seem to get removed - https://www.worldheritagesite.org/connection/Already+inscribed%2C+still+on+T+List ) - though the approach I use would work for either. You would just have to do more "trial and error" for the latter case.

It helps to know approximately when a country has updated its T List in order to avoid a lot of "trial and error". Some countries do major periodic changes and they are easier to trace than ones which do "bit changes"
a. Go to Wayback machine and get to the T List crawl history of the country whose former T List site you are interested in .
E.g UK - https://web.archive.org/web/20120228141827/http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/st ate=gb
b. Lets try to find when "Shakespeare's Stratford" was removed (in fact we know from worldheritagesite.org that it was some time in 2012!).
c. Wayback machine shows crawls from 2005. If I choose 2011 there was a crawl on 4 Dec 2011. That shows "Shakespeare's Stratford" still "officially" on UK's T List - https://web.archive.org/web/20111204051151/http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/st ate=gb
d. If I go to the crawls on 3 and 26 Jan 2012 it is still there. But the crawl of 28 Feb shows it is missing - hardly surprising as we know that UK updated its T List on 27 Jan so it must have been removed at that time - https://web.archive.org/web/20120228141827/http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/st ate=gb

A similar approach can obviously be used to discover when elements might have been added to or removed from T List definitions. I will not of course work if the removal was prior to the web archive being created. UNESCO didn't get its detailed record of T Lists onto its Web site until around June 2006 - so the only source I know of before then is the WHC and Bureau papers. These are what we used to gather the information on this site. It is a lot more time consuming and the dates of removal often have to be "presumed" . The links to the relevant document among each year's WHC/Bureau papers can be found somewhere (!!) among the posts on this Forum. I can find them if you want them. They go back to the early 1980s.

Author winterkjm
Partaker
#342 | Posted: 20 Aug 2018 22:11 

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#343 | Posted: 11 Sep 2018 09:59 
Garo Hills Conservation Area (GHCA) India
https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/6356/

Author elsslots
Admin
#344 | Posted: 12 Sep 2018 00:41 
jonathanfr:
Garo Hills Conservation Area (GHCA) India
https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/6356/

I can't find the coordinates for the final 3 locations ( the Reserved Forests of .. lmangiri (8.29 km2), Rewak (6.47 km2) and Baghmara)
Someone else wants to give it a try?

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#345 | Posted: 12 Sep 2018 09:37 
La foire Internationale Rachid Karameh de Tripoli-Liban (Lebanon)
https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/6357/
The 1700th site on TL.

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