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Author elsslots
Admin
#136 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 07:04 
"Raise your flag for godsake!" The Princess on the Chair (finally) loses her patience

Author elsslots
Admin
#137 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 07:15 
8 votes, 13 abstentions. 1 in favour (Russia), 7 against.

Author elsslots
Admin
#138 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 07:18 
Russia is hanging in there by its teeth in the debate, but the lady is not as sharp as yesterday. The issue is, they love Odes(s)a too.

Author elsslots
Admin
#139 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 07:36 
We're just going to vote all day, until one country makes a mistake

Author elsslots
Admin
#140 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 07:37 
Ethiopia and Oman are totally confused

Author elsslots
Admin
#141 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 07:45 
7 votes, 14 abstentions; 6 in favour, 1 against: -> Russia's amendment is considered a new proposal

Lunch now. Return at 3pm

Author Colvin
Partaker
#142 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 08:12 
Thanks for the updates, Els. Haven't been free to follow along much today, but the updates are helpful. Shame there are so many abstentions on these votes.

Author elsslots
Admin
#143 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 08:18 
Colvin:
so many abstentions on these votes

A number of them (as always) do not say a word either (Nigeria. Zambia for example). India routinely abstains also, but keeps asking clarifying questions to let everybody know they are there.

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#144 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 08:26 | Edited by: Solivagant 
What surprises me is the extent to which every issue is fought tooth and nail by members who, up until now, have simply abstained when the vote has actually taken place. Why did they bother?
a. Motion for adjournment sine die
b. Motion for closure
c. Motion that Russia's amendment is not an amendment

And after all the argument plus or minus the odd change in numbers of abstentions Russia remains alone on the vote!
Is there to be a rabbit out of the hat in the final (??) Vote on the draft resolution to inscribe?
Will they agree to have a secret ballot using some arcane procedure which only the Argentine legal advisor and the Russian delegate know about?
The members themselves often seem behind the game....a bunch of remedials asking what a simple majority is!
The Russian has had some good points . .why is a request to change Bologna's recommended deferral into inscribe an "amendment" when my request to alter a recommendation from inscribe isn't?
An interesting aspect for me which has come out of the legal advice is that the Committee is "sovereign"....if it says that black can be treated as white, then, on many aspects it can do so
I noted also the Russian argument that the only people "destroying" the "Imperial City" are the Ukrainians who are removing everything "Russian Imperial" from it.

Author jonathanfr
Partaker
#145 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 09:16 
Els can you change the 2 inscribed this morning by moving them from 2022 to 2023?
For 2020 for example, we have 0, they were all considered 2021.

Author elsslots
Admin
#146 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 09:17 
We start again

Author elsslots
Admin
#147 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 09:17 | Edited by: elsslots 
jonathanfr:
Els can you change the 2 inscribed this morning by moving them from 2022 to 2023?
For 2020 for example, we have 0, they were all considered 2021.

No, practically not at the moment. The data model only foresees one session per year. See https://www.worldheritagesite.org/forums/index.php?action=vthread&forum=16&topic=2363

We would lose the long list of nominations for September 2023

Author elsslots
Admin
#148 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 09:23 
No vote by secret ballot. So the abstainers are still comfortable.

Author elsslots
Admin
#149 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 09:24 
No vote by roll-call either (Russia alone again)

Author elsslots
Admin
#150 | Posted: 25 Jan 2023 09:27 
They will now vote by show of hands about the acceptance of the Draft Decision as proposed (Inscription of Odesa).
Oman is still confused. 2/3 majority now needed

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