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Author warwass
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#46 | Posted: 24 Nov 2017 03:36 
Kanał Augustowski (Augustów Canal) (Belarus, Lithuania, Poland) - the preparation of transboundary nomination started; they are planning to have it completed in December 2018. Although the site is not on Lithuanian TL, the country takes part in the meetings/workshops.

Author winterkjm
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#47 | Posted: 25 Nov 2017 02:27 | Edited by: winterkjm 
2020 WHC Nominations: 24

Africa (2)
Lake Assal Zone and the Ardoukoba Volcano (Djibouti)
Réserve de Biosphère de l'Archipel des Bijagos (Guinea-Bissau)

Arab States (1)
Babylon - Cultural Landscape and Archaeological City (Iraq)

Asia/Pacific (8) *Japan must narrow nominations to one
Ming and Qing Dynasty City Walls (China)
Semarang Old Town (Indonesia)
The Historical City of Maybod (Iran)
Jômon Archaeological Sites in Hokkaidô, Northern Tôhoku, and other regions (Japan)
The Sado complex of heritage mines, primarily gold mines (Japan)
Malaysia - FRIM Selagor Forest Park (Malaysia)
Myauk-U Archaeological Area and Monuments (Myanmar)
Auckland Volcanic Fields (New Zealand)
Gaya Tumulus Cluster (Republic of Korea)

Europe (11) *France/Spain must narrow nominations to one
Boris and Gleb (Kalozha) Church in Grodno (Belarus)
Augustów Canal (Belarus, Lithuania, Poland)
The Ancient Plodiv (Bulgaria)
Metz Royal and Imperial Power (France)
Megalithic Sites of South Morbihan (France)
Darmstadt Artists' Colony Mathildenhöhe (Germany)
Padova Urbs picta (Italy)
Krzemionki, Prehistoric Flint Mines (Poland)
Vila Viçosa, Renaissance Ducal Town (Portugal)
The Ribeira Sacra, Lugo and Orense (Spain)
Cultural Landscape of the Olive Grove of Andalusia (Spain)
The Rise of Systematic Biology (Sweden)

Latin America (1)
The Underwater City of Port Royal (Jamaica)

North America (1)
Hopewell Ceremonial Earthworks (USA)

Highly tenuous at this point. Yet, I don't doubt a good number of these nominations are more or less confirmed for 2020. The other half are projected for 2020, but as we know delays happen all the time, and reports are often overly confident.

Author Durian
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#48 | Posted: 29 Nov 2017 02:16 
Thailand aims to nominate Phra Mahathat and Chiangmai in 2018, so possible WHC 2020

https://www.dailynews.co.th/education/612447

Author Solivagant
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#49 | Posted: 29 Nov 2017 08:09 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Durian:
Thailand aims to nominate Phra Mahathat and Chiangmai in 2018, so possible WHC 2020

Coincidentally we have been in and around Chiang Mai today trying to capture what the very unfocussed "Lanna" T List entry is about. It needs a lot of work to concentrate on the really significant elements and ones which have not been degraded. There is OUV there but it needs a sharpening of the nomination - not the inclusion of just about everything a committee could think of.
Is it a matter of putting the North and the South in competition to see which can get its nomination ready first?? I can't really see either nominations being ready for those dates, given the stages described as having been reached in the report

Author Durian
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#50 | Posted: 29 Nov 2017 08:56 | Edited by: Durian 
Solivagant:
Is it a matter of putting the North and the South in competition to see which can get its nomination really ready first??

I don't think it is, Wat Mahathat actually should finish last year, but they decide to stop until they can get scientific evidence of how exactly old of stupa. While Chiang Mai, they just do according to their plan, actually they changed a lot from original plan after advice from ICOMOS that they should focus on Lanna sites not the whole historic buildings in the city. Less site and less work so they confident to finish work in time.

PS. It would be great if we can meet if you are in Bangkok next week:)

Author Solivagant
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#51 | Posted: 29 Nov 2017 18:18 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Durian:
PS. It would be great if we can meet if you are in Bangkok next week:)

We get back to Bangkok early pm Thurs Dec 7 (drop car at a/p and metro in) and leave 2 am on Sun Dec 10!!! I.e 3 evenings and 2 full days.
If you email Els she can forward our email address or forward yours to us . We are booked in at Evergreen Place.
So we still have a week to wend our way south via Kha Khaeng, Lopburi, Ayuthaya and Kaeng Krachan! Today to Mae Hong Son and no WHS or T List.

Author Durian
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#52 | Posted: 29 Nov 2017 20:43 
Solivagant:
Today to Mae Hong Son and no WHS or T List.

There were some discussion to propose Wat Phrathat Doi Kongmu in Mae Hong Son city to be one of WHS serial sites on Sacred Lanna Mountains project and Sacred monasteries project in the future.

Author Solivagant
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#53 | Posted: 30 Nov 2017 07:27 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Durian:
There were some discussion to propose Wat Phrathat Doi Kongmu in Mae Hong Son city

You mention sacred Lanna Mountains and Temples - are these a (or 2?) potential further T list entries or a development of the original Chiang Mai Lanna site. This, despite its volume of different locations didn't really stray far beyond Chiang Mai - yet e.g Lampang and Lamphun contain significant sites from that period (and before).

Author winterkjm
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#54 | Posted: 10 Dec 2017 12:57 

Author Assif
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#55 | Posted: 20 Dec 2017 17:42 | Edited by: Assif 
Great Spas of Europe

Els:
the Germans speak about "einreichen" in 2019: https://www.baden-baden.de/buergerservice/news/welterbe-bewerbung-wird-2019-eingereic ht_4575/ -> so submission of the dossiers would be postponed to early 2019, for a 2020 nomination?


Author Assif
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#56 | Posted: 30 Dec 2017 17:01 

Author jeanbon
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#57 | Posted: 31 Dec 2017 06:04 
why contestant?

Author winterkjm
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#58 | Posted: 31 Dec 2017 11:11 
Metz Royal and Imperial Power (France)
Megalithic Sites of South Morbihan (France)

I think he is referring to the fact, there are a couple nominations that are rumored for 2020. Therefore, there is certainly some competition amongst French nominations to secure the 2020 slot.

Author Assif
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#59 | Posted: 31 Dec 2017 17:09 
winterkjm:
there is certainly some competition amongst French nominations to secure the 2020 slot.

Starting 2020 only one nomination per state is allowed.

Author jeanbon
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#60 | Posted: 1 Jan 2018 05:04 | Edited by: jeanbon 
Assif:
Starting 2020 only one nomination per state is allowed

Really? why? I didn't know that! it's a Strange idea, above all for countries which are late in the rankings (India*, Myanmar, Iran...); i guess there will be exemptions...

* EDIT: I mean in comparison with their ambition

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