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Archaeological site, South (East) Asian

 
Author Durian
Partaker
#1 | Posted: 27 Dec 2015 22:46 | Edited by: Durian 
Archaeological site, South (East) Asian (23+2)

Angkor
Anuradhapura
Ayutthaya
Bagerhat
Buddhist Vihara at Paharpur
Champaner-Pavagadh
Chola Temples
Elephanta Caves
Ellora Caves
Fatehpur Sikri
Hampi
Makli, Thatta
Moenjodaro
My Son
Pattadakal
Polonnaruva
Preah Vihear Temple
Pyu Ancient Cities
Rani-ki-Vav
Sukhothai
Taxila
Thang Long
Vat Phou

I also want to add

Sigiriya
Ho Citadel (actually in SE Asia)

http://www.worldheritagesite.org/categories/category13.html

Author Durian
Partaker
#2 | Posted: 27 Dec 2015 22:53 
I would like to put in 2 groups : South Asia and SE Asia

South Asia (16) -- many sites already discussed in Hindu, Islam and Buddhism

Anuradhapura
Bagerhat
Buddhist Vihara at Paharpur
Champaner-Pavagadh
Chola Temples
Elephanta Caves
Ellora Caves
Fatehpur Sikri
Hampi
Makli, Thatta
Moenjodaro
Pattadakal
Polonnaruva
Rani-ki-Vav
Taxila
Sigiriya

SE Asia (9)
Angkor
Ayutthaya
My Son
Preah Vihear Temple
Pyu Ancient Cities
Sukhothai
Thang Long
Vat Phou
Ho Citadel

Author Durian
Partaker
#3 | Posted: 27 Dec 2015 23:22 | Edited by: Durian 
In my opinion

South Asia (16)

Anuradhapura -- impressive gigantic stupa architecture, cradle of Buddhism in Sri Lanka which later influence SE Asian art and culture, important site for pilgrim to worship sacred Bodhi tree (MAYBE)
Bagerhat -- already discussed in Hindu, regional importance only (NO)
Buddhist Vihara at Paharpur -- already discussed in Buddhism, one of biggest vihara but the style is not unique and can be find in NE south Asia (NO)
Champaner-Pavagadh -- early Islamic Mughal development, I preferred the best at Agra (NO)
Chola Temples -- already discussed in Hindu, impressive Hindu temple, representative of southern Indian art (YES)
Elephanta Caves -- impressive art but very small better represent by Ellora (NO)
Ellora Caves -- A real gems of Indian rock art, not only artistic but engineering masterpiece (YES)
Fatehpur Sikri -- Another beautiful Mughal city-palace, better represent by Red Fort (NO)
Hampi -- ruined city of Hindu Kingdom with many great art and unique location (YES)
Makli, Thatta -- ruined tombs (NO)
Moenjodaro -- this should be considered under pre historic (?) its significant is undeniable for Indus Valley Civilization (YES)
Pattadakal -- Another Hindu temples that represent artistic development that can be represent by Hampi or Chola (NO)
Polonnaruva --Beautiful arts of Quadrangle and Gal Vihara are superb, I would choose this more than Arunadhapura to represent Sri Lankan art (YES)
Rani-ki-Vav -- Unique step well art (MAYBE)
Taxila -- I ready discussed in Buddhism (NO)
Sigiriya -- impressive sight of fortress palace with beautiful fresco, ruined giant lion, full with mystery, and the garden is really unique (YES)

SE Asia (9)
Angkor -- nothing much to say (YES)
Ayutthaya -- Important city of SE Asia history with gigantic temple ruins and palace, a showcase of regional civilization (MAYBE)
My Son -- Champa art is very important for SE Asia history but few remains after bombs in Vietnam war (NO)
Preah Vihear Temple -- Khmer art better represent by Angkor (NO)
Pyu Ancient Cities -- I still prefer to wait for Bagan to represent this regional arts (NO)
Sukhothai -- Cradle of Thai Civilization with beautiful Sukothai styles (YES)
Thang Long -- Vietnamese citadel in Hue maybe a better representative, also few original remain (NO)
Vat Phou -- Khmer art better represent by Angkor (NO)
Ho Citadel -- few remains except the city wall (NO)

Author kkanekahn
Partaker
#4 | Posted: 29 Dec 2015 00:15 | Edited by: kkanekahn 
My Selection

Anuradhapura - Most ancient Kingdom, Served longest period as the capital of Sri Lanka and Sacred to Buddhism ( I prefer this compared to Polonnaruwa, 2nd most ancient kingdom)
Chola Temples -- already discussed in Hindu, impressive Hindu temple, representative of southern Indian art
Sigiriya -- impressive sight of fortress palace with beautiful fresco
Makli, Thatta -- World's Largest Necropolis
Moenjodaro -- for Indus Valley Civilization
Hampi- largest city in the world in 15th and 16th Century
Rani-ki-Vav -- Unique step well art and representative of unique sub-terrain water architecture
Fatehpur Sikri- (For personal reason), I found it very beautiful as it remained intact and unaltered (However Mughal is already represented by Agra fort)

Angkor - Biggest temple complex in world
Ayutthaya -- Important city of SE Asia history
Sukhothai -- beautiful Sukothai styles, Therveda buddhism

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#5 | Posted: 29 Dec 2015 04:25 
8 = undoubtedly "NO" – for reasons given by others – not significant enough, duplicate others without being that special themselves etc
-Bagerhat
-Champaner-Pavagadh
-Buddhist Vihara at Paharpur
-Elephanta Caves
-Pattadakal
-Preah Vihear Temple
-Pyu Ancient Cities
-Ho Citadel

4 = Incontrovertably "YES" - for the reasons given by others
-Angkor
-Chola Temples
-Ellora Caves
-Moenjodaro

"Problematic" and need "arguing"! My conclusions are - YES = 5, MAYBE = 5, NO = 3.
So, in all, I have YES = 9 out of 25 (plus definitely 1 of Anurad and Polon)!! Thus leaving some room for a few "maybe's"
-Anuradhapura – MAYBE I fear that we do need to choose between this and Polonnaruva – I just don't know enough to do so
-Ayutthaya – MAYBE – possibly special enough to "slip in"?
-Fatehpur Sikri – YES – I know that Mughal architecture is already represented but this is a very special place both for its size, concept, quality of the remains, atmosphere.
-Hampi – YES – This ruined city with its temples, bridge, markets etc really is rather special
-Makli, Thatta - MAYBE – Have visited – some fine architecture/carving from 14th-18th C. some off it is Moghal and thus overlaps but other aspects are at least "regionally" special. And yes it may be the World's biggest necropolis – but I don't find all this quite enough to justify a YES.
-My Son - MAYBE – How significant are the Champa? I will leave this to experts in this area!
-Polonnaruva - MAYBE – I fear that we do need to choose between this and Anuradhapura
-Rani-ki-Vav – NO - I find it difficult to put "single" structures into our top list unless they are VERY special and I don't think this does it
-Sukhothai – YES – comes ahead of Ayutthaya I feel
-Taxila – YES – In my view should have been included with Buddhist. As a representative of Ganharan civilisation,
-Thang Long – NO – as per Durian
-Vat Phou - NO – as per Durian
-Sigiriya – YES – as much for its "spectacular" location as for its historical/architectural remains

Author kkanekahn
Partaker
#6 | Posted: 29 Dec 2015 07:57 | Edited by: kkanekahn 
Solivagant:
My Son - MAYBE – How significant are the Champa? I will leave this to experts in this area!

Champas are significant in SE Asia. However My Son is now in completely ruins. During Vietnam war, it was one of the prime target. I Think it is not that much significant to be part of top 200

Author Durian
Partaker
#7 | Posted: 29 Dec 2015 20:48 | Edited by: Durian 
kkanekahn:
Champas are significant in SE Asia. However My Son is now in completely ruins. After Cambodia- Thai conflict, it was one of the prime target. I Think it is not that much significant to be part of top 200

kkanekahn, My Son is in Vietnam, and was bombed by American during Vietnam War, nothing relate with Cambodia - Thai conflict. The one that has been damaged by Thai army is Preah Vihear Temple during border dispute.

Author kkanekahn
Partaker
#8 | Posted: 30 Dec 2015 01:08 
Durian:
kkanekahn, My Son is in Vietnam, and was bombed by American during Vietnam War, nothing relate with Cambodia - Thai conflict. The one that has been damaged by Thai army is Preah Vihear Temple during border dispute.

Apology, I was confused between two. But, both are heavily damaged. None deserves to be in top 200

Author clyde
Partaker
#9 | Posted: 31 Dec 2015 06:57 
My selection:

Anuradhapura (although I haven't visited Sri Lanka yet, I'd choose it over Polonnaruva, somewhat more iconic and in a good state of conservation
Ellora
Moenjodaro
Sigiriya
Angkor
Ayutthaya
Sukhothai

What about Borobudur and Prambanan? I'd choose Borobudur as top 200 material, no doubt

Author fr4nc1sc4
Partaker
#10 | Posted: 4 Jan 2016 04:22 
my selection:

South Asia:
Anuradhapura
Chola Temples
Ellora Caves
Fatehpur Sikri
Sigiriya

SE Asia:
Angkor
Ayutthaya
Preah Vihear Temple
Pyu Ancient Cities
Sukhothai
Vat Phou
Prambanan
Borobudur

Author Assif
Partaker
#11 | Posted: 28 Jan 2016 18:05 
This one should be summarized.

Author Durian
Partaker
#12 | Posted: 28 Jan 2016 22:43 | Edited by: Durian 
Summary

Angkor got 5 vote
Sigiriya got 5 vote
Sukhothai got 5 vote

Chola got 4 vote
Ellora got 4 vote
Moenjodaro got 4 vote

Hampi got 3 vote
Anuradhapura got 3 vote
Ayutthaya got 3 vote
Fatehpur Sikri got 3 vote

Polonnaruwa got 1 vote
Makli got 1 vote
Rani-Ki-Vav got 1 vote
Taxila got 1 vote
Preah Vihear got 1 vote
Pyu got 1 vote
Vat Phou got 1 vote

Bagerhat
Buddhist Vihara at Paharpur
Champaner-Pavagadh
Ellephanta
My Son
Pattadakal
Thang Long
Ho

Author elsslots
Admin
#13 | Posted: 30 Jan 2016 03:37 
I'll bring these over the the main summary page at http://www.worldheritagesite.org/allbyrank.php as well

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