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Author Assif
Partaker
#1 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 08:27 | Edited by: Assif 
I thought it might be worthwhile to list all the sites on which we seem to agree they should be out of the race. If anyone thinks one of these sites should be reconsidered we could discuss it here.

So far:

Macquarie Island
Mount Etna
Pitons Management Area
Baptism Site "Bethany Beyond the Jordan"
Kalwaria Zebrzydowska
Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France
Stari Ras and Sopocani
Abbey and Altenmünster of Lorsch
Armenian Monastic Ensembles
Cistercian Abbey of Fontenay
Convent of Christ in Tomar
Corvey
Franciscan Missions in the Sierra Gorda
Haghpat and Sanahin
Jesuit Block and Estancias of Córdoba
Jesuit Missions of the Guaranis
Jesuit Missions of Trinidad and Jesus
Monasteries of Daphni, Hosios Loukas and Nea Moni of Chios
Monastery of Alcobaça
Monastery of Batalha
Monastery of Geghard
Monastery of Horezu
Novodevichy Convent
Pannonhalma
Poblet Monastery
Reichenau
San Antonio Missions
Studenica Monastery
Yuso and Suso Monasteries
Aapravasi Ghat
Camino Real
Canal du Midi
Kunta Kinteh
La Lonja de la Seda
Frankincense
Pontcysyllte
Rhaetian Railway
Rideau
Semmering
Four Lifts
Vizcaya
Bourges Cathedral
Cathedral of St. James in Sibenik
Modena
Notre-Dame Cathedral in Tournai
Desembarco del Granma
Phong Nha
Nahanni
Gros Morne
Saltaire
Pienza
Morelia
Mantua
Le Havre
Crespi d'Adda
Berlin modernism
Asturian Monuments
Baroque Churches
Boyana Church
Church of the Ascension, Kolomenskoye
Congonhas
Euphrasian Basilica in Porec
Holy Trinity Column (not really a church but has a chapel inside and doesn't fit elsewhere)
Petäjävesi Old Church
Pilgrimage Church of St. John of Nepomuk
Wooden Churches of Southern Malopolska
Wooden Churches of the Slovak Carpathians
Wooden Tserkvas of the Carpathian Region

Author elsslots
Admin
#2 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 08:32 | Edited by: elsslots 
A good idea, but don't be too quick writing them off as we're still discussing most categories (though the list above seems quite safe).

Whenever a discussion in a category is coming to the end, I'll summarize it and add it here (I also liked to save the reasons why we choose them):
http://www.worldheritagesite.org/allbyrank.php

There are 3 groups: the first are the Yes, the second ones the Maybe's and the third the others (the same one as you're aiming at).

Author elsslots
Admin
#3 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 08:37 
National History Park Haïti should be in by my account, the palace category still isn't properly discussed I believe

Author Assif
Partaker
#4 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 08:37 | Edited by: Assif 
I just included sites for which we discussed all relevant categories, so sites that we unanimously found less promising that have more than one category still have the chance with the next bunch of sites.
For example: Tassili n'Ajjer, Hierapolis-Pamukkale and Ujung Kulon National Park should be in as they could be rated higher in another category.

Author Assif
Partaker
#5 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 08:40 
elsslots:
the palace category still isn't properly discussed I believe

I erased the sites of this category.

Author clyde
Partaker
#6 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 10:53 
With a heavy heart (they're still WHS) but I wouldn't rank any of these sites as top 200 for sure

Author Colvin
Partaker
#7 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 12:13 | Edited by: Colvin 
I'd like to put in a plug for the Abbey of St. Gall. The library at the abbey contains an extensive, world-renowned collection of medieval literature, and is a prime example of the tie between monasticism and record-keeping. For me, the library is the prime reason to put forward this recommendation.

Author Khuft
Partaker
#8 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 12:35 
Could we keep the discussion in the various other threads for now? It seems a bit confusing to be discussing here as well as on the "original" threads. I'd have the one or the other that I'd like to put forward, e.g. Goa.

Author Assif
Partaker
#9 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 15:55 
Khuft:
Could we keep the discussion in the various other threads for now?

A good idea. So just use this list to see if you have any reservations on the sites that are about to be out. If you do start a discussion at the category page. I will erase Goa and St. Gall for now.

Author kkanekahn
Partaker
#10 | Posted: 6 Dec 2015 03:09 
I'd like to put in a plug for Phong Nha. I got vote from Assif as well as me. It is oldest major karst(Palaeozoic period) in Asia. Similarly it has largest cave. It has enormous bio- diversity and beautiful karst feature.

Author Assif
Partaker
#11 | Posted: 6 Dec 2015 09:09 | Edited by: Assif 
Surtsey
Canterbury
Tequila
St Emilion
Lavaux
Tokaji
Donana
Los Katios
Niokolo-Koba
W
Fertö
Alto Douro
First coffee plantations
Elche
Piedmont vineyards
Augustusburg
Drottningholm
Kromeriz
Genoa
Litomysl
Würzburg
Blaenavon
Gobustan
Iwami Ginzan
Kernave
Mapungubwe
Röros
Bhimbetka
Saloum
Soleiman Too
Tamgaly
Chersonese
Padua botanic garden
Wörlitz
Muskauer Park
Par force
Lednice-Waltice
Studley
Atapuerca
Mt Carmel
Sangiran


Macquarie Island
Mount Etna
Pitons Management Area (St. Lucia)
Baptism Site "Bethany Beyond the Jordan"
Kalwaria Zebrzydowska
Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France
Stari Ras and Sopocani
Abbey and Altenmünster of Lorsch
Armenian Monastic Ensembles
Cistercian Abbey of Fontenay
Convent of Christ in Tomar
Corvey
Franciscan Missions in the Sierra Gorda
Haghpat and Sanahin
Jesuit Block and Estancias of Córdoba
Jesuit Missions of Trinidad and Jesus
Monasteries of Daphni, Hosios Loukas and Nea Moni of Chios
Monastery of Alcobaça
Monastery of Batalha
Monastery of Geghard
Monastery of Horezu
Novodevichy Convent
Pannonhalma
Poblet Monastery
Reichenau
San Antonio Missions
Studenica Monastery
Yuso and Suso Monasteries
Aapravasi Ghat
Camino Real
Canal du Midi
Kunta Kinteh
La Lonja de la Seda
Frankincense
Pontcysyllte
Rhaetian Railway
Rideau
Semmering
Four Lifts
Vizcaya
Bourges Cathedral
Cathedral of St. James in Sibenik
Modena
Notre-Dame Cathedral in Tournai
Desembarco del Granma
Nahanni
Gros Morne
Saltaire
Pienza
Morelia
Mantua
Le Havre
Crespi d'Adda
Berlin modernism
Asturian Monuments
Baroque Churches
Boyana Church
Church of the Ascension, Kolomenskoye
Congonhas
Euphrasian Basilica in Porec
Holy Trinity Column
Petäjävesi Old Church
Pilgrimage Church of St. John of Nepomuk
Wooden Churches of Southern Malopolska
Wooden Churches of the Slovak Carpathians
Wooden Tserkvas of the Carpathian Region

Author clyde
Partaker
#12 | Posted: 6 Dec 2015 09:25 
I would definitely save Summer Palace, Beijing. I chose it over Suzhou as a great example of Chinese gardens and architecture ensemble. I'd include it in my top 200 actually

Author kkanekahn
Partaker
#13 | Posted: 6 Dec 2015 10:13 | Edited by: kkanekahn 
Hani is as beautiful as Philippines terraces. It is also better maintained.
http://www.worldheritagesite.org/forums/index.php?action=vthread&forum=11&topic=1950# msg12271

I also want to save (at least in early stages) some national parks.
http://www.worldheritagesite.org/forums/index.php?action=vthread&forum=11&topic=1934& page=2#msg12279

Pitons Reunion (at least we have to keep one volcanic plugs, another is already out of the list). I don't think anyone voted for Surtsey, Canterbury (so it should be out of the list)

Author Assif
Partaker
#14 | Posted: 7 Dec 2015 05:20 | Edited by: Assif 
I can see fr4nc1sc4 now added his/her vote and that for most categories some of his/her choices are sites that noone else voted for. The list is long:
Fertö, Mt. Carmel, Semmering, Modern Berlin, Baroque churches Philippines, Olomouc, Sacri Monti, Mt Etna, Sangiran, Bethany, Santiago de Compostela France, Daphni etc., Canterbury, Reichenau and Wörlitz.
I am by no way criticizing, in fact I am impressed by the originality. The question is how to proceed. So far I have tried to mostly include sites on the Out of the Race list noone supported. Only for the categories Els summarized I additionally took off sites with the support of a single member only. Otherwise, if there was support for any of the site, even by a single member, I took them off the list. Since fr4nc1sc4 has an extensive selection that does not match what other members voted for, I would be reluctant to do the same. I think it would be more rewarding for fr4nc1sc4 to explain his/her choices for those sites and see whether these explanations bring him/her support from other members. If any of these sites get supported by additional members I will take them out of the list. Does this seem ok to everyone?

Author meltwaterfalls
Partaker
#15 | Posted: 7 Dec 2015 05:37 
Assif:
sites that noone else voted for:..., Modern Berlin, Olomouc

Two sites that I know well and appeal to me intensely, but I wouldn't second them, I just don't think they are outstanding enough on a global scale. So I think that your assessment seems justifiable to me Assif. Though I would be delighted to hear why someone else may love these sites as much as I do, especially Olomouc I always enjoy reminiscing about my old stomping grounds :)

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