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Author elsslots
Admin
#1 | Posted: 30 Nov 2015 11:38 | Edited by: elsslots 
Geological formation, Paleontology
20 WHS

Atapuerca
Australian Fossil Mammal Sites
Chengjiang Fossil Site
Dinosaur Provincial Park
Dorset and East Devon Coast
Fossil Hominid Sites
Ischigualasto / Talampaya
Joggins Fossil Cliffs
Lower Valley of the Awash
Lower Valley of the Omo
Messel Pit
Miguasha Park
Monte San Giorgio
Mount Carmel Caves
Ngorongoro
Peking Man Site
Sangiran Early Man Site
Stevns Klint
Wadi Al-Hitan
Willandra Lakes

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Author Assif
Partaker
#2 | Posted: 30 Nov 2015 11:55 
Here we would probably need to subdivide. Some of them are hominid sites, some dinosaurs, some mammals.

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#3 | Posted: 30 Nov 2015 12:18 | Edited by: Solivagant 
I see that the Dorset Devon coast is categorised as Coastal marine. It should be Palaeontology as, whilst it's scenery is undoubtedly very fine, it was inscribed solely for its fossils

Re Assif point - yes we need to ensure we cover both hominid and a reasonable selection of non hominid fossil sites.
I am reluctant to have "first go" yet again!!!! But Omo and Awash raise interesting issues - there is actually nothing to see. And who knows what else there might be inside the inadequately defined boundaries. Omo is incorrectly defined (from the earliest years of the scheme - see my review!) I might include Awash PURELY because Lucy was found there. Which raises another q -where is Olduvai?? presumably got left out as ngorongoro didn't originally include cultural criteria for it??

Author elsslots
Admin
#4 | Posted: 30 Nov 2015 12:25 
Solivagant:
Dorset Devon coast

Changed it!

Author kkanekahn
Partaker
#5 | Posted: 30 Nov 2015 15:04 
My selection (tough for me, as I am not an expert)

Dinosaur Provincial Park
Ischigualasto / Talampaya
Peking Man Site
WILLANDRA LAKES
JOGGINS FOSSIL CLIFFS
Lower Valley of the Awash

Author Assif
Partaker
#6 | Posted: 30 Nov 2015 15:32 
My selection:

Australian mammal sites
Dinosaur PP
Fossil hominid sites
Ischigualasto/Talampaya
Joggins Fossil Cliffs
Chengjiang
Miguasha
Monte San Giorgio
Awash

Author clyde
Partaker
#7 | Posted: 1 Dec 2015 15:09 
My selection:
Omo valley

Author elsslots
Admin
#8 | Posted: 2 Dec 2015 13:15 | Edited by: elsslots 
I'll give it a go (starting with the Hominids):

Hominid:
Atapuerca
Fossil Hominid Sites - For the Taung Skull, a specimen of the species Australopithecus africanus (first of an early ape-form species to be classified as hominin)
Lower Valley of the Awash - For the Lucy skeleton (popularization, US tour)
Lower Valley of the Omo
Mount Carmel Caves
Ngorongoro - Olduvai Gorge, significant in showing the increasing developmental and social complexities in the earliest humans, or hominins, largely as revealed in the production and use of stone tools (wiki)
Peking Man Site - Prime example of Homo erectus site (many individuals plus tools).
Sangiran Early Man Site
Willandra Lakes - very early homo sapiens findings, including the world's oldest cremation site

Non-hominid:
Australian Fossil Mammal Sites
Chengjiang Fossil Site
Dinosaur Provincial Park
Dorset and East Devon Coast
Ischigualasto / Talampaya
Joggins Fossil Cliffs
Messel Pit
Miguasha Park
Monte San Giorgio
Stevns Klint
Wadi Al-Hitan

Author Assif
Partaker
#9 | Posted: 4 Dec 2015 17:32 
I would like to add my support to Willandra and Ngorongoro.

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#10 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 01:56 
I still don't see the argument for omo in addition to the other east African sites.

Author Khuft
Partaker
#11 | Posted: 5 Dec 2015 11:58 
I would only support Ngorongoro in this list. But I'm not a huge fan of palaeontological sites.
If we need a non-hominid too, I'd go for Messel Pit (based on my very low knowledge about any of these sites)

Author fr4nc1sc4
Partaker
#12 | Posted: 7 Dec 2015 01:20 
My selections:

Chengjiang Fossil Site
Mount Carmel Caves
Peking Man Site
Sangiran Early Man Site

Author kkanekahn
Partaker
#13 | Posted: 8 Dec 2015 06:33 | Edited by: kkanekahn 
Till now we have this situation
2 votes

Non- Hominid

Chengjiang
Dinosaur Provincial Park

Ischigualasto / Talampaya
JOGGINS FOSSIL CLIFFS


Hominoid

Lower Valley of the Awash
Ngorongoro 

Peking Man Site
WILLANDRA LAKES


With 0 or 1 vote

Australian mammal sites
Fossil hominid sites
Messel pit
Miguasha
Monte San Giorgio
Mount Carmel Caves
Sangiran Early Man Site
Atapuerca
Dorset and East Devon Coast 
Lower Valley of the Omo
Stevns Klint
Wadi Al-Hitan

Author kintante
Partaker
#14 | Posted: 15 Dec 2015 08:07 
I saw 7 of them and by far the best: Wadi Al-Hitan

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#15 | Posted: 15 Dec 2015 11:58 | Edited by: Solivagant 
On the basis of "average" we need to get the 20 down to at max 8 to stay around the 400.
My choices would be
Hominid (9)
Atapuerca (Earliest Hominid in W Europe) NO - regional
Fossil Hominid Sites (Australopithecus) - NO (maybe my ignorance but i don't see what it adds to Awash and Ngorongoro
Lower Valley of the Awash (Australopithecus)- YES (because of Lucy)
Lower Valley of the Omo (Australo and Homo) NO - boundaries unclear, nor what is there, inscription case muddled ,duplicated Awash
Mount Carmel Caves - (Neanderthal/Homo) NO (not quite important enough?
Ngorongoro. (Home Erectus, Habilis and Sapiens + "tools") YES - oldest tool making
Peking Man Site - (Homo Erectus - "Peking Man") MAYBE We need a site to cover the spread of Early humans out of Africa - but which?
Sangiran Early Man Site (Homo Erectus - "Java Man") MAYBE - similar as for Peking Man
Willandra Lakes - NO (despite the cremation it is a bit "regional")
So - 3 - the earliest Australopithecus and the start of tool making plus one of Peking and Java Man

Non Hominid (11)
Australian Fossil Mammal Sites (Oligocene/Miocene -but Australian only) NO - regional
Chengjiang Fossil Site (cambrian soft bodied) - NO - covered by Burgess (assuming Canadian Rockies are included!!)
Dinosaur Provincial Park (Cretaceous Dinosaurs) NO - covered by Dorset
Dorset and East Devon Coast (Triassic, Jurassic and Cretaceous) YES - because of the length of period it covers -185my AB says no other site does this. Also its historic role in history of the science
Ischigualasto / Talampaya (Triassic non marine) NO -covered by Dorset
Joggins Fossil Cliffs (Carboniferous) - YES - covers the Coal Age and this a particulalry significant period for Man's later development
Messel Pit (Eocene - mammals, birds, reptiles, fish and insects) YES - for variety of creatures
Miguasha Park (Devonian Fishes) - MAYBE -how important is it to represent the Devonian? Does anywhere else do it? possibly if we have spare spaces?
Monte San Giorgio (Triassic Marine) NO - despite having a better fossil record across its own period than Dorset it is covered by it and more.
Stevens Klint - NO (This is surely more "Geological" rather than "Paleontological" - no actual "dead Dinosaurs" there!)
Wadi Al-Hitan (Fossil whales and evolution) - NO - I am sure a great site to visit but is the "Evolution of Whales" a bit too "niche" when we are trying to cut right back?

So 3 YES.
Equals 6 in all

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