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Author joycevs
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#16 | Posted: 24 Jan 2013 16:43 
Today the nomination file for the Van Nelle Factory was finished see article

This year the Teylers is up to become WHS, next year Van Nelle and according to the article the plantations of West-Curaēao are up for 2015. I guess I do need to go to Curacao one time...

Author joycevs
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#17 | Posted: 15 Jan 2015 06:27 
For the Dutchies on this forum:
On Friday Feb 13th there's a meeting about the Koloniėn van Weldadigheid for free. You can find info here

Author pikkle
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#18 | Posted: 19 Jan 2015 15:22 | Edited by: pikkle 
As an ardent Dutchophile, being a Dutch and German American and because it is probably my favorite European country (out of the 20+ I've visited), perhaps because I've spent so much time there and studied there, I really don't like the approach to WHS.

These failed "Benevolence Colonies," one of which is actually a labour camp, are really interesting and I would certainly go to the event on Feb 13, but these are more local history sites. It seems like the Dutch, and to a certain extent other countries, are not nominating sites of OUV but sites that are interesting in a local and regional context and could use a tourism boost. Certainly Drenthe could use some more visitors - it's a beautiful area and quite interesting. I feel the same way about the Mining Basin of the Nord-Pas-de-Calais in France.

Understandably, 'old towns' seem to be out of favor, but I just don't think the most significant, historically significant, representations of human genius, and places of outstanding universal value are represented by the current T-List (non-colonial possessions). The Netherlands possibly has the most important Enlightenment cultural heritage and it has one of the most interesting (political) capitals and wonderful and influential architecture (especially influential in North America + England around the "Glorious Revolution" and thus in the UK). I'd like to see more Enlightenment sites nominated.

How about the Portuguese Synagogue, which reflects an entire cultural opening of trade with Iberia as well as having connections to Spinoza? It's one of the most beautiful synagogues in the world, as well.

Binnenhof/Ridderzaal + Lange Voorhout (Kloosterkerk, Hotel des Indes, the residence of Johan de Witt - one of the most beautiful streets there is) + Mauritshuis is an amazing ensemble and while the Binnenhof isn't as "grand" as many capital complexes, that's because it's more preserved.

Delft with its Oude and Nieuw Kerks, which house the royal family and Vermeer, as well as the Prinsenhof where William of Orange was shot and killed - representing a link between the beginnings of the dynasty and successful revolution up to the Stadtholders and Kings.

I know it's somewhat in the vein of the "old town," but how about a serial site of the Grote Markts - Gouda (St. Janskerk & Stadthuis alone make this a gem), Alkmaar, Bergen op Zoom, Breda, Haarlem, and others. I would add Leiden, Utrecht, Dordrecht, even Amersfoort - they are incredibly preserved cities, but Leiden should file a separate listing for its extremely important university (1575) that was a hotbed of the arguments between the radical Enlightenment and the conservative Enlightenment. Furthermore, the architectural landmarks (Marekerk, in particular) represent the Dutch approach to the Baroque.

Another Enlightenment idea could be sites related to Grotius, or just a serial set of sites related to the Dutch Enlightenment in general. Delft, Slot Lovestein (part of the Nieuwe Holland Waterlinie also), and Leiden University. Could have a set of sites attached to Grotius, Descartes (Leiden, Amsterdam), Spinoza (Amsterdam, the Hague [Nieuwe Kerk, the preserved home of Spinoza). Erasmus also was schooled in s-Hertogenbosch, but I don't think there's any remnants of the school. Teyler's Museum (perhaps more credible in a serial nom) in Haarlem and the Eisinga Planetarium in Friesland could also be associated.

I'm not sure there's enough "immovable cultural heritage sites" to do a serial nomination for Golden Age painters - but Rembrandthuis & Westerkerk, where Rembrandt is buried (Amsterdam), Vermeer's possible grave in Oude Kerk (Delft), Haarlem (Hals museum, Painters guild, van Heemskerck), the Mauritshuis & the Prins Willem V Museum (incredible little museum across from the Mauritshuis), could all be possible listings. I'm sure I could come up with some more ideas, but I'm just shooting from the hip and I wish that I'd see some more nominations like this rather than more "Man and Water," or societies of benevolence, which are more like National Landmarks rather than UNESCO WHS.

Author meltwaterfalls
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#19 | Posted: 19 Jan 2015 17:52 
Those are certainly some interesting suggestions and would make a much more interesting trip to the Netherlands than a trot around the already inscribed world heritage sites (speaking from experience that is certainly true).

However I don't think many western european historic centres will have much of a chance. There are just so many on the list already, which is a shame as they can be very interesting.

At least the more recent Dutch propossals havent just been different forms of dykes and polders. I'm not fully up on the Koloniėn van Weldadigheid but it certainly seem like an interesting story.

Sites associated with a person have a very high threshold in gaining inscription, and they seem to be discouraged. The non inscription of Darwin's house and garden doesn't bode well for future personality led proposals, perhaps the Luther sites were the last ones?

Author pikkle
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#20 | Posted: 19 Jan 2015 21:12 | Edited by: pikkle 
You're probably right. I can't think of anything that gained World Heritage Status connected with a single personality since the Lutherstadt and related sites. I can think of Liebniz library in Hannover, Germany - but that's "Memory of the World." I was thinking maybe a serial nomination with sites connected to many Enlightenment thinkers might have a better chance. Does seem like a long-shot though with Down House failing to gain inscription.

I just think that the greatest contributions to world heritage happened during the 17th century, particularly the Stadtholderless period, from 1643-72. It'd be interesting to see what they could come up with in regards to that period, whether it be architecture, art, significant historical locations (i.e. the Portuguese Synagogue), etc.

I do think the Koloniėn van Weldadigheid seems like a step in the right direction, but I wonder how it will fare. Veenhuizen is especially interesting. Enough polders and dykes is right.

As a wealthy nation it makes sense that the Dutch don't need UNESCO status for a lot of their more popular tourist cities - especially in North and South Holland.

Author joycevs
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#21 | Posted: 2 Jun 2015 05:31 
No topic for The Netherlands yet, so here it is.

June 13 and 14 is World Heritage weekend in Holland and all the WHS have special activities.
The city of Amsterdam organizes many events on the 14th, free of cost, including a boat ride on the canals, city walks and a bus tour to three WHS in one day! See their website for more info and to sign up

Author meltwaterfalls
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#22 | Posted: 8 Jun 2015 18:03 | Edited by: meltwaterfalls 
The bus tour to three WHS in one day seems to be missing a trick to me. I reckon you could visit all the Netherland's WHS in one day (excluding Willemstadt of course).

09:00 Gather in the lobby of the Van Nelle Factory for a 45 minute tour
09:50 head off to Kinderdijk, a quick 15 minute photo stop and view inside a windmill
10:40 drive to Rietveld Schroeder House for another tour.
12:15 drive to Shokland, have some lunch in the cafe and walk a lap around the former island
14:00 drive to Ir. D.F. Woudagemaal for a run though of the machinery.
14:50 drive to Beemster Polder, stopping on the Breezanddijk to enter the core zone of the Wadden See, take a photo of some birds and look at some mud.
16:15 after a walk around the visitor centre in Middenbeemster drive along the dijks to quickly explore some of the forts along the Kanaaldijk, that are listed as part of the Stelling van Amsterdam.
17:00 drop everyone off at the World Heritage podium in Amsterdam.

It would be fairly hard going but in 8 hours you could do reasonable justice to 9 WHS. It may not be fun but it would be an achievement!

Author hubert
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#23 | Posted: 10 Jun 2015 15:18 
meltwaterfalls:
I reckon you could visit all the Netherland's WHS in one day

Well, that might be possible and would save a lot of time. However, I've spent some more time in the Netherlands end of May: three days in Amsterdam (my third visit) and seven days for seven WHS, a few TWHS and several other worthwhile sites. Some of them would deserve a place on the list.
Certainly, the country is only inadequately represented by its WH list: a bit too much 'Hollands struggle against water'. Without doubt emblematic of the Netherlands, but most importantly (at least for me) it's a great country for fans of modern architecture.

Author meltwaterfalls
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#24 | Posted: 20 Jul 2015 09:59 | Edited by: meltwaterfalls 
Do we know what the potential order may be for Dutch nominations? I know the Frontiers of the Roman Empire extension is up for 2017 and Koloniƫn van Weldadigheid is looking at being nominated in 2018, but is there anyting else

Most relevantly does anyone know of the potential progress of Sanatorium Zonnestraal?

Author elsslots
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#25 | Posted: 20 Jul 2015 15:01 | Edited by: elsslots 
meltwaterfalls:
Most relevantly does anyone know of the potential progress of Sanatorium Zonnestraal?

Not before 2020: http://www.hilversumsnieuws.nl/lees/43348/nog-geen-voordracht-werelderfgoedlijst-voor -zonnestraal- (there seems to be OUV, but more research is necessary; same story with Koninklijk Eise Eisinga Planetarium and the Bonaire National Marine Park)

And the official list for the coming years:
2017
De Koloniƫn van Weldadigheid ( Veenhuizen, Frederiksoord en Ommerschans), together with the Flemish colonies Wortel and Merksplas.
2018
De Nieuwe Hollandse Waterlinie, extension of WHS of Stelling van Amsterdam
2019
De Plantages van West-CuraƧao
2020
Roman Limes, together with Germany and as an extension of Frontiers of the Roman Empire

Author meltwaterfalls
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#26 | Posted: 21 Jul 2015 05:48 
Thanks for that Els.

Some very 'exciting' sites coming up there :(

Author winterkjm
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#27 | Posted: 21 Jul 2015 12:29 
elsslots:
De Plantages van West-CuraƧao

While I know very little about these nominations, and the WHS in the Netherlands in general. Curacao has long interested me as a potential destination from Los Angeles. I would love to spend a week exploring Curacao and Bonaire.

Author elsslots
Admin
#28 | Posted: 21 Jul 2015 13:23 
winterkjm:
elsslots: De Plantages van West-CuraƧao

These are the plantations Ascencion, San Juan, Savonet and Knip. The dreaded 'water management' word is used here too in the description of the TWHS. Also, these plantations are very different from the large scale plantations with crops for export that can be found elsewhere.

I wrote my master thesis on the abolishment of slavery on Curacao, so it should be of interest to me too! But I've never been to Curacao.

Author elsslots
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#29 | Posted: 7 Aug 2015 10:29 
elsslots:
And the official list for the coming years:2017De Koloniƫn van Weldadigheid ( Veenhuizen, Frederiksoord en Ommerschans), together with the Flemish colonies Wortel and Merksplas.2018De Nieuwe Hollandse Waterlinie, extension of WHS of Stelling van Amsterdam2019De Plantages van West-CuraƧao2020Roman Limes, together with Germany and as an extension of Frontiers of the Roman Empire

I just noticed that the years mentioned here have to be read +1. So the Kolonien will be brought forward in 2017, for an inclusion in 2018 (which fits with the 200 year anniversary of the site)

Author joycevs
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#30 | Posted: 12 Feb 2016 05:14 
The Dutch children TV program Het Klokhuis made a series about World Heritage in The Netherlands.
To celebrate this, they will host a special event at the Van Nelle Fabriek on March 5th : world heritage day

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