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Author elsslots
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#31 | Posted: 15 Oct 2016 13:24 
Solivagant:
Just a "minor" correction to an entry on this Web Site

Changed it!

Author Solivagant
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#32 | Posted: 15 Oct 2016 13:28 
elsslots:
Changed it!

But it was still "deferred"- just not with that title.

Author elsslots
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#33 | Posted: 15 Oct 2016 15:02 
Solivagant:
But it was still "deferred"- just not with that title.

Yes, I left the "Deferred" in 2012

Author clyde
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#34 | Posted: 15 Jan 2017 16:45 

Author winterkjm
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#35 | Posted: 17 Sep 2017 07:17 
Quite a bit of new information about Italy's coming nomination of Scrovegni Chapel. I think its a sure thing for either 2019 or 2020, its a bit unclear to me if the dossier is being submitted this January.

Padua, Scrovegni Chapel new candidacy site Unesco

The Chapel of the Scrovegni in Padua is dressed in a new light

Video about New Lighting system

Author winterkjm
Partaker
#36 | Posted: 17 Sep 2017 07:53 
Does this indicate Italy's 2019 cultural nomination? Is this the Salento and the "Barocco Leccese" nomination?

https://initalia.virgilio.it/i-muretti-della-puglia-candidati-a-patrimonio-unesco-120 77

Author Durian
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#37 | Posted: 5 Oct 2017 05:24 
UPDATE Cascata delle Marmore and valnerina: Monastic sites and ancient hydrogeological reclamation works

After failure in 2007, Local government is planning to re-nominate this site again but Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists!

http://www.umbriaon.it/cascata-delle-marmore-un-patrimonio-sospeso/

Author nfmungard
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#38 | Posted: 11 Mar 2019 08:59 
Taking the Italian TWHS discussion to where it belongs.

zoe:
Maddalena Island
Lucca
Parma
Pavia
Giardini Botanici Hambury
Island of Asinara
Lake Maggiore and Lake D'Orta
Orvieto
Sila NP
Pelagos: The Cetacean Sanctuary
The Aniene valley and Villa Gregoriana in Tivoli
Bergamo
The Marble Basin of Carrara (I met the guy who drove around with the stunt guy from the Jamese Bond movie...what a connection indeed!)
Bologna
The Prosecco Hills of Conegliano and Valdobbiadene (actually the mountains nearby are worth a look instead in summer)
Via Appia "Regina Viarum" (probably impossible to miss if you go to the tombs in Rome anyway)

If normal standards applied to Italy they should just go for the full country inscription and be done with it. There are so many historic and nice places. My personal favorite is Bobbio. But to me Italian sites have to be better.

In your list I find several sites where I would disagree:
* Prosecco Hills are a joke, especially when comparing them to the Champagne.
* Neither Bologna nor Pavia entice me much.
* Bergamo is effectively inscribed via the Venetian works of Defense.
* Clydes review of Parma is fairly lackluster. Having travelled in the area frequently, it's not that recommeded.

Places I enjoyed:
* Lago d'Orta and Maggiore.

Places I would be keen to visit:
* Lucca
*

Author nfmungard
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#39 | Posted: 24 Apr 2019 05:22 
Having recently visited my second to last site in Italy, I decided to review and comment my country ratings. Please note that Italy has such an abundance of great historic old towns that normal standards do not really apply.

World Class: 5*
Rome: The Pantheon alone would get a 4.5* rating from me. Same for the Colosseum. And there just is so much more. Incredible.
Venice: When I arrived the first time, I thought I was on a movie set. The sheer size and abundance is incredible.
Florence: The Renaissance city.

Outstanding: 4.5*
Ravenna: I love late antiquity and this is the site that shows the changes taking place best.
Pisa: Pisa as a whole is dull. That's why to me this isn't world class. But the inscribed area with the Leaning Tower, the Duomo, ... are just amazing and iconic.
Pompei: If you were to visit a single Roman ruin, this should be it.

Great: 4*
Castel del Monte: To me this is a building falling out of time. Stil modern by today's standards.
Portovenere, Cinque Terre, and the Islands: Best coast in Italy.
Siena: A full blown medieval city that doesn't feel like a museum.
Agrigento: It's probably the location, but I liked this site best of the Greek ruins in Italy.
Arab-Norman Palermo: The mix of influences (Byzantine, Arab, Norman) is unique.
Dolomites: These are nice mountains, probably the nicest part of the Alps. It's not rated higher as they are too populated and too settled.
Vicenza: When compiling this summary, I decided to upgrade this to 4*. These are the era defining works of one of the most influential architects of history. I think this does not get the merits it deserves because his architecture became so ubiquituos.

Very Good: 3.5*
Matera: A town hewn from rock...
Syracuse: One of the nicest coastal towns in Italy plus Greek ruins.
Assisi: Italy's best medieval hill top city plus a great church.
The trulli of Alberobello: Unique. Weird. Fun.
Villa Romana del Casale: Amazing and huge mosaics.

Good: 3*
Cilento and Vallo di Diano: It may be the weather/scenery, but I liked Agrigento better. Still, a nice Greek site.
Costiera Amalfitana: I know it has many fans, but to me this is nice, not great. I prefer Cinque Terre by a lot.
Rock Drawings in Valcamonica: Again, may be the Alpine scenery, but I greatly enjoyed the rock drawings.
Urbino: Another hilltop medieval/Renaissance city in Italy. But I enjoyed this one more than others.
Villa d'Este: I love gardens and this is a great one.
Aquileia: Early Christian church with great mosaics.

Average/Merited: 2.5*
Longobards in Italy: I have seen two of the sites (Spoleto, Brescia). They are simpler and represent a downward trend from Rome or Ravenna. Interesting.
Isole Eolie: Volcanic islands in the Mediterranean. I find Santorini better.
Medici Villas and Gardens: Templates of modern villas.
Naples: Pretty dirty. Catacombs were great. The Spanish influence is visisble, but not that unique.
San Gimignano: Medieval museum town.
Val di Noto: Plenty of Baroque towns to see.
Villa Adriana (Tivoli): Big Roman ruin. If it were in any other country than Italy I would rate it higher.
Sacri Monti of Piedmont and Lombardy: Only seen the one on the Orta Lake. Nice, but not great.
Santa Maria delle Grazie: Stunning painting, but not much more.
Val d'Orcia: Nice area for hiking with plenty of nice old towns.
Mantua and Sabbioneta: Nice old town.

Below average: 2*
Pienza: Downvoted as it should be a sub site of Val d'Orcia.
Ferrara: Nothing too memorable.
Modena: Nothing too memorable.
Monte San Giorgio: Only 2* as it's prehistoric. Pretty dull otherwise. Requires imagination.
Mount Etna: Standard Volcano. I think Chile has those by the hundreds.
Venetian Works of Defence: Feels like a assortment of all sites that didn't make the cut on their own.
Verona: Not sure what sets Verona apart. Nice town, but Italy has plenty of these.
Royal Palace at Caserta: Big palace. But that's mostly it.

Poor: 1.5*
Botanical Garden, Padua: Could be nice, but state of presentation too poor.
Crespi d'Adda: I see why, but not a great example of an industrial era site. We have plenty of those in Germany.
Ivrea: Modern Italian architecture, but simply not as influential as e.g. Bauhaus.
Residences of the Royal House of Savoy: Too many inscribed sites. Nothing special.
Genoa: Very similar to the Royal Residences. Again, nothing special.

Very Poor: 1
None.

Not Justified: 0.5
Vineyard Landscape of Piedmont: This is a run of a mill vineyard. Should not have been inscribed.

Not Valuated / Visited
Etruscan Necropolis -> Limited visit.
Su Nuraxi di Barumini -> Not visited.
Pile Dwellings -> Only visited in Germany.
Beech Forests -> Only visited in Germany.
Rhaetian Railway -> Only visited in Switzerland.

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