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Qhapaq Ñan Sites in Ecuador

 
Author GaryArndt
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#1 | Posted: 4 Jul 2015 11:58 
Does anyone know of locations which are part of the Qhapaq Ñan serial site which are near Quito, Ecuador?

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#2 | Posted: 4 Jul 2015 13:05 | Edited by: Solivagant 
The Nomination file is VERY difficult to use to place the individual locations - it is incredibly long and detailed but lacks usable higher level information and many of the sites/villages aren't on e.g Google maps Even so, I would suggest you download it from http://whc.unesco.org/uploads/nominations/1459.pdf
The sections you will be interested in are described on PDF pages 369 - 375.
There are 2 relevant sections -
The first is NE of Quito described as
"Segment: Campana Pucará - Quitoloma, Code: EC-CQ-09/CS-2011
Location Country: Ecuador, Province: Pichincha, Canton: Cayambe, Parishes: Cangahua"

The second is S of Quito described as
"Segment: Nagsiche – Panzaleo, Code: EC-NP-10/CS-2011
Location Country: Ecuador, Province: Cotopaxi, Canton: Salcedo, Parishes: Panzaleo"


Neither seems to contain what might be described as a "major site" but, in the second section one location which I noticed was this
"Associated Archaeological Site: San Agustín de Callo, Code: EC-NP-10/CS-2011
This section is associated with the archaeological site of San Agustín del Callo located on a plain or plateau at an altitude of 3,113 m. The Inca and his family would stay in this type of tambo and this site probably had a ritual usage as it is close to Cotopaxi. Currently it is a ranch for tourist accommodation. Most of the building structure has features of Inca architecture, such as, among others, concrete walls, padded rectangular blocks joined without spaces, alcoves in the walls and trapezoidal doors."

The Tourist Ranch is situated 1.25 hours from Quito and is advertising here!! It appears to be very nicely situated for views etc of Cotopaxi - http://www.incahacienda.com/history-archeology/
It might be worth asking a tourist agency in Quito what they could set up for you in a morning or afternoon trip from/to Quito with a car going either north or south

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#3 | Posted: 6 Jul 2015 01:01 | Edited by: Solivagant 
I went to quite a lot of research effort to try to help with this question!
Has GaryArndt even read it among all the 2015 WHC posts?? If so it would be quite nice to know!

Author meltwaterfalls
Partaker
#4 | Posted: 16 Jul 2015 11:39 | Edited by: meltwaterfalls 
Hmm not sure if Gary is checking in here, but just in case anyone else was wondering about these I created a map of all the inscribed aspects of the Qhapaq Nan sites.

This one isn't as pretty but perhaps more useful: Satellite Hybrid Map

NB. The size of the bubble relates to the size of the inscribed property, I thought it may be of interest but feel free to ignore that aspect.

Author elsslots
Admin
#5 | Posted: 16 Jul 2015 12:03 
meltwaterfalls:
I created a map of all the inscribed aspects of the Qhapaq Nan sites.

Nice map! I'll place a link to it from the site page

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#6 | Posted: 16 Jul 2015 12:50 | Edited by: Solivagant 
meltwaterfalls:
I created a map of all the inscribed aspects of the Qhapaq Nan sites.

But I can't find the site I referred to above - "Associated Archaeological Site: San Agustín de Callo, Code: EC-NP-10/CS-2011
This section is associated with the archaeological site of San Agustín del Callo located on a plain or plateau at an altitude of 3,113 m. The Inca and his family would stay in this type of tambo and this site probably had a ritual usage as it is close to Cotopaxi."


There are just so many so I would not be surprised if some got missed - did it or did you decide not to include "Associated sites" - I have never really understood what that means - but they do have full reference numbers!

Author meltwaterfalls
Partaker
#7 | Posted: 16 Jul 2015 13:15 
Ah I hadn't clocked the associated sites. The map is just from those listed on the official sites map page. Will have a poke around in case there was something that went amiss in the data cleaning.

Author Solivagant
Partaker
#8 | Posted: 16 Jul 2015 13:28 | Edited by: Solivagant 
meltwaterfalls:
the associated sites.

The "Status" of these "Associated sites" is rather strange. I see that reference numbers of the list of different locations on the UNESCO Web site goes from 001 to 137 -and presumably you covered all of these. Yet the description ALSO clearly states "The Qhapac Ñan, Andean Road System includes 273 component sites spread over more than 6,000 km that were selected to highlight the social, political, architectural and engineering achievements of the network, along with its associated infrastructure for trade, accommodation and storage, as well as sites of religious significance."
So - which is it - 137 or 273?? To complicate matters further I note that Els has stated in the "location" that there are 291 locations -sourced from the AB evaluation!!! In fact the AB evaluation also states
"Qhapaq Ñan. However, ICOMOS considered that these may not be justified for all 291 serial components. Following additional information exchanges with the States Parties at the request of ICOMOS, ICOMOS considers that 273 serial components clearly and discernibly contribute towards the proposed Outstanding Universal Value of the property" - so this Web site's "number of locations" for the Qapac Nan needs reducing Els - and a connection for reduction during nomination process! (The AB lists the 18 reduced sites of which 9 are segments of road and 9 are "associated" sites - they are all in Peru and Ecuador but don't include the above site near Cotopaxi. As far as I can see, only the segments containing the 9 removed associated sites are given )

A problem for you, Meltwaterfalls, is that I don't think you are going to find an easily accessible list of the grid references of the other sites!
I have just checked the UNESCO map and it is only populated with the sites given a UNESCO reference number (as opposed to the Nomination ref number). The "associated site" I referred to near Cotopaxi (South of Quito) is NOT shown

Author meltwaterfalls
Partaker
#9 | Posted: 17 Jul 2015 04:45 
Hmm very odd. Yeah I only have the first 137. I took it on faith that the sites listed as the component parts were the ones that made up the WHS as it seems odd to not provide co-ordinates for the other sites.

Author clyde
Partaker
#10 | Posted: 24 Jul 2015 15:46 
Wow meltwaterfalls! What a great map and user friendly too. Do you happen to have a similar one (link) but with all the 1031 WHS?

Author meltwaterfalls
Partaker
#11 | Posted: 24 Jul 2015 15:55 
Thanks Clyde. I'm working on it at that moment and may have an early version of it soon.

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