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Author warwass
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#106 | Posted: 28 Jun 2016 07:36 
Assif:
8) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed with a tentative list not pursuing further nominations (20):

Tibet/China is running Qinghai Hoh Xil in 2017

Author Assif
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#107 | Posted: 28 Jun 2016 08:35 | Edited by: Assif 
warwass:
San Marino & Luxembourg: one site inscribed, no T-list

Yes, but one can regard them as fully inscribed, akin to the Vatican and Kiribati too.

Author warwass
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#108 | Posted: 28 Jun 2016 09:33 
Assif:
fully inscribed

Yes, I do agree, but Luxembourg used to have two tentative sites and we never know whether they'll recreate a new tentative list.

Author warwass
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#109 | Posted: 28 Jun 2016 09:47 
Assif:
Islamic State (3 WHS, several T-sites) (Iraq and Syria),

I would rather skip and forget about Daesh, 'cos there's no such a country. And it is not a special territory neither. This is just a jihadist militant fundamentalist group occupying part of Syrian and Iraqi territory. They also control part of Nigeria, Libya and Afghanistan. Do we want to legitimize it?

Author Solivagant
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#110 | Posted: 28 Jun 2016 09:52 
Assif:
warwass:
San Marino & Luxembourg: one site inscribed, no T-list
Yes, but one can regard them as fully inscribed, akin to the Vatican and Kiribati too.

I wonder?? Never say "never"!
Luxembourg might decide to put a "Moselle Vinyard CL" on its T List as a transboundary nomination with Germany.
And surely Luxembourg has a few Beech Forests which it could add to all the others queuing up for addition to the existing Inscription!!
And what about Iron Ore Mining??

Author Khuft
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#111 | Posted: 28 Jun 2016 14:19 
Solivagant:
Never say "never"! Luxembourg might decide to put a "Moselle Vinyard CL" on its T List as a transboundary nomination with Germany. And surely Luxembourg has a few Beech Forests which it could add to all the others queuing up for addition to the existing Inscription!! And what about Iron Ore Mining??

Agree with Solivagant on this one! Don't underestimate the ressourcefulness of countries to find ways to piggyback on other nominations. Looking forward to learning more about the well-known Albanian beech forests.

Joke aside, to add to Solivagant's list, Luxembourg could join a "Celtic oppida" serial nomination with France, Germany, etc etc - the site of Titelberg in Southern Luxembourg was apparently the capital of the Treveri people before the Roman conquest (based on Wikipedia):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titelberg

Author Assif
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#112 | Posted: 28 Jun 2016 18:31 
Point taken. Added Luxemburg and Kiribati, but not Vatican or San Marino.

Author Solivagant
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#113 | Posted: 29 Jun 2016 01:53 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Khuft:
Luxembourg could join a "Celtic oppida" serial nomination with France, Germany,

Perhaps Khuft "knows something"!?
I am afraid that "Oppida" had not previously impinged a great deal on my consciousness.
I found this to be an interesting document which describes (with reference to UNESCO and ICOMOS) both "Oppida" and the cultural landscapes within which they are situated
http://www.refitproject.com/#!about/c46c

I cant find an existing WHS which makes an issue of any "Oppidum" remains and the current T List doesn't seem to have (yet!!) picked up on this potentially fruitful source of future nominations. A Google search only identified this Serbian T list entry which includes an "Oppidum" as a very minor part -
http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5540/

The Wiki article includes a list of Oppida across Europe
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppidum

Author Durian
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#114 | Posted: 29 Jun 2016 03:46 | Edited by: Durian 
warwass:
Tibet/China is running Qinghai Hoh Xil in 2017

I will never considered Qinghai as part of Tibet. It maybe under Tibetan culture influence zone. But Qinghai had always been struggled to be separate from both Tibet and Han China.

Author warwass
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#115 | Posted: 29 Jun 2016 05:18 
Durian
Durian:
I will never considered Qinghai as part of Tibet.

Probably you're right but I found it while searching about this proposal: http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5991/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinghai, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan_Plateau

Author Khuft
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#116 | Posted: 29 Jun 2016 13:24 
Solivagant:
Perhaps Khuft "knows something"!?

Haha! No, unfortunately I don't! I have personal connections to Luxembourg and was disappointed when Vianden got kicked out a few years ago. So at that time I googled a bit for other sites that could be suitable and came across Titelberg - and from there to the broader Celtic oppida theme.

Author pikkle
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#117 | Posted: 29 Jun 2016 23:59 
Heh, compared to some of the (vineyard) CLs out there, a Germany/Luxembourg extension to the Upper Middle Rhine wouldn't look so bad. Not that I condone it of course with viticulture and rivers with castles being pretty well represented... But I do find it more beautiful than the Rhine itself even.

Celtic Oppida would actually be of interest. Having come across several in southern France and Germany, I was thinking about how important the Celtic migration was to Central Europe and how few continental (purely) Celtic sites there are.

Author Assif
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#118 | Posted: 1 Jul 2016 12:45 | Edited by: Assif 
pikkle:
Heh, compared to some of the (vineyard) CLs out there, a Germany/Luxembourg extension to the Upper Middle Rhine wouldn't look so bad.

Actually, there is such an attempt fleshing out, however without Luxemburg (yet).

http://www.rhein-zeitung.de/region/lokales/mittelmosel_artikel,-damit-die-mosel-zum-w elterbe-wird-neuer-verein-solls-richten-_arid,1154547.html

Author pikkle
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#119 | Posted: 2 Jul 2016 00:55 
Hahaha, of course! Well, I spent a lovely few days in Trier and drove the Mosel from Koblenz (and cruised parts of it) into Luxembourg and found it to be really beautiful and complimentary to the Rhine. Even though the terraces are much steeper and more beautiful and the river is narrower, there is the problem that almost all the castles are ruins (c'mon Louis XIV) as fewer were reconstructed and can "stand as evidence" of Romanticism in the way that such a thing happened with the Rhine (which I don't know that UNESCO values so much anyway :), other than Cochem. The Rhine has a spattering of ruins, reconstructions, and even a couple truly preserved castles. I think getting Burg Eltz as a component would be key, as it is really truly one of the best "castle experiences" one can have.

Author Assif
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#120 | Posted: 17 Jul 2016 18:13 | Edited by: Assif 
Chad is out of the list, Micronesia and Antigua-Barbuda one up.

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