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#31 | Posted: 3 Jun 2013 17:21 | Edited by: Assif 
Does anyone know whether Dominica, Kiribati, Bermuda and Reunion could have more to offer WHS-wise apart from their already inscribed property?
The tiny territory of Gibraltar for example is now proposing a second property.

And again an update:

1) Not in Unesco (11):
Liechtenstein, Kosovo (with a WHS)(Serbia), Northern Cyprus (Cyprus), Taiwan (China), Western Sahara (one T site) (Morocco), Transnistria (Moldova), Abkhazia (Georgia), South Ossetia (Georgia), Somaliland (Somalia), Azawad (with 3 WHS) (Mali), Nagorno-Karabakh (Azerbaijan).

2) Unesco members which didn't sign the WH convention (6):
Bahamas, South Sudan, Somalia, Timor Leste, Tuvalu, Nauru.

3) Member states and special territories with no T-list (17):
Sao Tome, Equatorial Guinea, Niue, Cook Islands, Djibouti, Liberia, Brunei, Monaco, French Carribean (France), Chechnya (Russia), French Guyana (France), Faroe (Denmark), Man (UK), Bougainville (PNG), Marianas and Guam (USA), Falkland and St. Georgia (UK), Chagos (UK).

4) Member states and special territories with T-list but no sites proposed (20):
Angola, Eritrea, Swaziland, Burundi, Comoros, Maldives, Tonga, Samoa, Bhutan, Trinidad Tobago, Antigua Barbuda, Grenada, St Vincent, Sierra Leone, Rwanda, British Caribbean (UK), French Polynesia (France), Svalbard (Norway), Singapore (new), Kuweit (new).

5) Member states and special territories with sites proposed but none inscribed not currently pursuing nomination (1):
Guyana

6) Member states and special territories with sites proposed but none inscribed currently pursuing nominatione (9):
Lesotho (running 2013), Myanmar (running 2014), Micronesia, Qatar (probably 2013), Jamaica (running 2015), Guinea Bissau (running 2013), Fiji (probably 2013), Uyghur AR (probably 2013) (China), Gibraltar (running 2016)(UK).

7) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed not pursuing further nominations (2):
Guinea, Congo (Rep).

8) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed pursuing further nominations (1):
Moldova.

9) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed currently pursuing further nominations (1):
Zambia (running 2014).

10) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed and no tentative list (8):
Belize, Dominica (?), Kiribati (?), Puerto Rico (USA), Bermuda (?) (UK), Reunion (?) (France), New Caledonia (France), West Papua (Indonesia).

11) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed with a tentative list and not pursuing further nominations (18):
Palestine, Barbados, St. Kitts and Nevis, Vanuatu, Cape Verde, Solomons, Mozambique, El Salvador, Chad, Andorra, Haiti, Togo, PNG, Burkina Faso, Greenland (Denmark), Dutch Caribbean (Netherlands), St. Helena (UK), Tibet (China).

12) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed pursuing further nominations (5):
Benin, Gabon, Paraguay, Dominican Rep, Uruguay.

13) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed currently pursuing further nominations (10):
Marshalls, Luxemburg (running 2013), North Korea (probably 2013), Macedonia, Palau, Botswana (running 2014), Namibia (probably 2013), UAE (running 2014), Kyrgyzstan (running 2014), Tajikistan (probably 2013).

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#32 | Posted: 3 Jun 2013 17:53 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Assif:
Member states and special territories with T-list but no sites proposed ......- Gibraltar (UK).

UK's Dept of Culture Media and sport has OKed Gorham's Cave Gibraltar to prepare a nomination for submission in 2015 and consideration at the 2016 WHC.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/two-new-uk-world-heritage-nominations-to-be-put-fo rward
or does this mean "No sites have EVER been proposed"?

Assif:
Not in Unesco ..........Western Sahara (Morocco) .... Azawad (Chad),

Morocco has Dakhla in W Sahara on its T List
Isn't Azawad Mali rather than Chad?

Assif:
not pursuing further nominations

What constitutes "not pursuing..." - no nomination date identified? The "Netherlands Antilles" no longer exists but if it means any of the NL territories of the Caribbean then the "Plantations of W Curacao" are apparently working towards 2015 as per this post by Els http://www.worldheritagesite.org/forums/index.php?action=vthread&forum=8&topic=1517&p age=1#msg6166

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#33 | Posted: 3 Jun 2013 18:14 
Under the definition of the tuareg rebels, both Timbuktu as well as Gao would be in Azawad (haven't checked Mali's TL; maybe there are additional azawadi sites there)

Author Assif
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#34 | Posted: 3 Jun 2013 23:52 
Does anyone know whether Dominica, Kiribati, Bermuda and Reunion could have more to offer WHS-wise apart from their already inscribed property? They all currently lack a T list.

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#35 | Posted: 4 Jun 2013 05:11 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Assif:
Does anyone know whether Dominica, Kiribati, Bermuda and Reunion could have more to offer WHS-wise apart from their already inscribed property?


Of the 4 I have only been to Dominica and have merely "considered" the others (i.e read the guide books etc)!
My understanding based on the above would be

a. Dominica
Unlikely - it does have other "natural areas" beyond the currently inscribed area but I don't believe that these are of OUV. Its main "unique" claim to fame in the cultural domain among the other Caribbean Islands is that it has a population of people of "Carib" descent. It was for a period, by British and French agreement, left to the Caribs as a sort of "buffer" between the 2 country's other claims. Some "Carib dwellings" have been constructed for the tourist industry but there wasn't anything authentic and tangible when we were there other than the chance to see/meet a few people who claimed to be Caribs.

b. Kiribati.
Christmas Island is the World's largest coral atoll and has c50% of Kiribati's land mass and around 5% of its population and attracts fishing/diving/birding tourism. It was used for aerial Nucelar tests. Although it is a Nature Reserve I don't believe it figures in any of the other "Natural site" lists e.g Biosphere Reserve. Seems unlikely WHS material

c. Bermuda
Had the chance recently to put forward something for the new UK T list but didn't do so. One possibility (??) might be as part of some future linked "Slave route" transnational site which UNESCO rumbles on with. It was a significant transit point in the Atlantic Slave Route. It has designated an "African Diaspora Heritage Trail" under the UNESCO banner
http://www.slideshare.net/andrewwilliamsjr/bermuda-unesco-slave-route-project-africa- diaspora-heritage-trail
A Google search on "UNESCO Slave route Project" will return many "hits" covering many countries - Bermuda doesn't seem to figure particularly

d. Reunion
The current Cirques etc site includes the core of the island's NP - I don't believe that any of the towns/villages/plantations etc are of OUV. You lumped together numerous UK and NL islands as "UK Caribbean", "NL Caribbean" and "French Polynesia". France does of course possess other territories in the Indian Ocean beyond Reunion which should be included if you are trying to include all land areas of the World outside Antarctica - e.g Mayotte in the Comores, Kerguelin and Crozet plus many oceanic "dots". However the Heard and McDonald Islands have perhaps already claimed the "Southern Indian Ocean Island Ecoregion " place on the List. Mayotte we have also been to but it didn't really compare with the other islands of the Comores.

We could discuss for ever the list of "Territories" you have included/excluded but there are some "illogical" exclusions - e.g If Isle of Man is included separately, then so should the other "British Crown Dependencies" of Jersey and Guernsey (this latter including Alderney and Sark). Alternatively lump them all together under "BCD"! Norway also has some territories beyond Svalbard (e.g Jan Mayen and Bouvet) - as does the US beyond Pto Rico and Guam (E.g Virgin Islands). Oh - and NZ with Niue and Tokelau. Or, perhaps better deal with all "Territories" under the UN/UNESCO state regarded de facto as being responsible for them.

Author Assif
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#36 | Posted: 4 Jun 2013 06:04 
With the territories I tried to include such that could propose good candidates for WHSs. That's also why I didn't distinguish the different French, Dutch or British Caribbean territories.
The Channel Islands, as far as I know, have no sites of significance. Same is true of Mayotte, American Samoa and American Virgin Islands. Mayen could be added (it's on the Norwegian T-list). Tokelau too.
For the Southern Indian Ocean I added Chagos, which is also recommended as an eco gap by IUCN.
On the other hand, I'll consider Dominica, Reunion, Kiribati and Bermuda as fully inscribed (like the Holy See and San Marino) and erase them.

Corrected Version:

1) Not in Unesco (11):
Liechtenstein, Kosovo (with a WHS)(Serbia), Northern Cyprus (Cyprus), Taiwan (China), Western Sahara (one T site) (Morocco), Transnistria (Moldova), Abkhazia (Georgia), South Ossetia (Georgia), Somaliland (Somalia), Azawad (with 3 WHS) (Mali), Nagorno-Karabakh (Azerbaijan).

2) Unesco members which didn't sign the WH convention (6):
Bahamas, South Sudan, Somalia, Timor Leste, Tuvalu, Nauru.

3) Member states and special territories with no T-list (18):
Sao Tome, Equatorial Guinea, Niue, Cook Islands, Djibouti, Liberia, Brunei, Monaco, French Carribean (France), Chechnya (Russia), French Guyana (France), Faroe (Denmark), Man (UK), Bougainville (PNG), Marianas and Guam (USA), Falkland and St. Georgia (UK), Chagos (UK), Tokelau (NZ).

4) Member states and special territories with T-list but no sites proposed (22):
Angola, Eritrea, Swaziland, Burundi, Comoros, Maldives, Tonga, Samoa, Bhutan, Trinidad Tobago, Antigua Barbuda, Grenada, St Vincent, Sierra Leone, Rwanda, British Caribbean (UK), French Polynesia (France), Svalbard (Norway), Singapore (new), Kuweit (new), Jan Mayen (Norway).

5) Member states and special territories with sites proposed but none inscribed not currently pursuing nomination (1):
Guyana

6) Member states and special territories with sites proposed but none inscribed currently pursuing nominatione (9):
Lesotho (running 2013), Myanmar (running 2014), Micronesia, Qatar (probably 2013), Jamaica (running 2015), Guinea Bissau (running 2013), Fiji (probably 2013), Uyghur AR (probably 2013) (China), Gibraltar (running 2016)(UK).

7) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed not pursuing further nominations (2):
Guinea, Congo (Rep).

8) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed pursuing further nominations (1):
Moldova.

9) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed currently pursuing further nominations (1):
Zambia (running 2014).

10) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed and no tentative list (4):
Belize, Puerto Rico (USA), New Caledonia (France), West Papua (Indonesia).

11) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed with a tentative list and not pursuing further nominations (18):
Palestine, Barbados, St. Kitts and Nevis, Vanuatu, Cape Verde, Solomons, Mozambique, El Salvador, Chad, Andorra, Haiti, Togo, PNG, Burkina Faso, Greenland (Denmark), Dutch Caribbean (Netherlands), St. Helena (UK), Tibet (China).

12) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed pursuing further nominations (5):
Benin, Gabon, Paraguay, Dominican Rep, Uruguay.

13) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed currently pursuing further nominations (10):
Marshalls, Luxemburg (running 2013), North Korea (probably 2013), Macedonia, Palau, Botswana (running 2014), Namibia (probably 2013), UAE (running 2014), Kyrgyzstan (running 2014), Tajikistan (probably 2013).

Author Solivagant
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#37 | Posted: 13 Jun 2013 03:16 | Edited by: Solivagant 
Assif:
I added Chagos, which is also recommended as an eco gap by IUCN.

The other day the UK High Court handed down a legal judgement which is relevant to this issue -
In 2010 UK created a Marine Protected Area (the largest in the World) around the Chagos Archipelago which, whilst recognising its fine "environmental credentials" ( Wiki - "The Chagos contain the world's largest coral atoll (The Great Chagos Bank). It also has one of the healthiest reef systems in the cleanest waters in the world, supporting half the total area of good quality reefs in the Indian Ocean"), also, possibly "conveniently", makes it less likely that the exiled Chagossian Islanders could ever return to their homeland (From Wiki via Wikileaks, but the court wouldn't accept privileged diplomatic communications as evidence - "US Cables have shown the FCO suggesting to the US counterparts that setting up a protected no-take zone would make it "difficult, if not impossible" for the islanders to return" ). The US air base of Diego Garcia is not impacted but the establishment of the Area makes it even harder for anyone to "penetrate" the islands, which are effectively a no-go zone even for passing yachts - see this report from a "Country counter" - http://www.gwins.com/gig/articles/ISLANDS_OF_NO_RETURN.htm . The atoll of Diego Garcia itself can only be entered by a yacht with permission in the case of "extreme emergency"!

Whether the UK would ever bother to go to the next stage of nominating the MPA for UNESCO WH status seems highly unlikely. Both UK and US want as little publicity as possible regarding "BIOT" (British Indian Ocean Territory). With the apparent ending of legal routes to oppose establishment of the MPA it would seem that they have achieved everything they want! See
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/11/chagos-islands-marine-park-court

Author Assif
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#38 | Posted: 21 Jun 2013 15:36 
Tajikistan and Namibia are out of this list. East Turkestan (Uyghur AR) has got its first nomination.

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#39 | Posted: 22 Jun 2013 10:22 
East Turkestan (Uyguhr AR) has a nomination next year (Silk Road) so it moved up to category (13).
Fiji and Qatar got their first nominations each, but although having T lists they do not have current candidates for inscriptions. Therefore, they move up to (11).
Lesotho got its first nomination which is transnational. Similarly to Fiji and Qatar it has a T list but no current candidates for inscription. Therefore, it moves up to (7).

Author Assif
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#40 | Posted: 23 Jun 2013 05:14 
North Korea is now out of the list with Kaesong inscribed. Luxemburg with only Vianden on its T-list is now out too as it was conclusively rejected.

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#41 | Posted: 23 Jun 2013 08:23 | Edited by: Assif 
1) Not in Unesco (11):
Liechtenstein, Kosovo (with a WHS)(Serbia), Northern Cyprus (Cyprus), Taiwan (China), Western Sahara (one T site) (Morocco), Transnistria (Moldova), Abkhazia (Georgia), South Ossetia (Georgia), Somaliland (Somalia), Azawad (with 3 WHS) (Mali), Nagorno-Karabakh (Azerbaijan).

2) Unesco members which didn't sign the WH convention (6):
Bahamas, South Sudan, Somalia, Timor Leste, Tuvalu, Nauru.

3) Member states and special territories with no T-list (18):
Sao Tome, Equatorial Guinea, Niue, Cook Islands, Djibouti, Liberia, Brunei, Monaco, French Carribean (France), Chechnya (Russia), French Guyana (France), Faroe (Denmark), Man (UK), Bougainville (PNG), Marianas and Guam (USA), Falkland and St. Georgia (UK), Chagos (UK), Tokelau (NZ).

4) Member states and special territories with T-list but no sites proposed (22):
Angola, Eritrea, Swaziland, Burundi, Comoros, Maldives, Tonga, Samoa, Bhutan, Trinidad Tobago, Antigua Barbuda, Grenada, St Vincent, Sierra Leone, Rwanda, British Caribbean (UK), French Polynesia (France), Svalbard (Norway), Singapore, Kuweit, Jan Mayen (Norway).

5) Member states and special territories with sites proposed but none inscribed not currently pursuing nomination (1):
Guyana

6) Member states and special territories with sites proposed but none inscribed currently pursuing nomination (5):
Myanmar (running 2014), Micronesia (Incompl 2010), Jamaica (running 2015), Guinea Bissau (Def 2013), Gibraltar (running 2016)(UK).

7) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed not pursuing further nominations (3):
Guinea, Congo (Rep), Lesotho.

8) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed pursuing further nominations (0):


9) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed currently pursuing further nominations (2):
Zambia (running 2014), Moldova (Withd 2009) .

10) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed and no tentative list (4):
Belize, Puerto Rico (USA), New Caledonia (France), West Papua (Indonesia).

11) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed with a tentative list and not pursuing further nominations (20):
Palestine, Barbados, St. Kitts and Nevis, Vanuatu, Cape Verde, Solomons, Mozambique, El Salvador, Chad, Andorra, Haiti, Togo, PNG, Burkina Faso, Greenland (Denmark), Dutch Caribbean (Netherlands), St. Helena (UK), Tibet (China), Fiji, Qatar.

12) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed pursuing further nominations (4):
Gabon (Ref 2005), Paraguay (Rej 2005), Dominican Rep (Def 2005), Uruguay (Rej 1996).

13) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed currently pursuing further nominations (8):
Marshalls (Incompl 2010), Macedonia (Withd 2012), Palau (Incompl 2010), Botswana (running 2014), UAE (running 2014), Kyrgyzstan (running 2014), East Turkestan (running 2014) (China), Benin (2011 Def).

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#42 | Posted: 7 Sep 2013 14:03 
Uruguay is now pursuing its second nomination in 2015 and French Polynesia its first one in 2016.

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#43 | Posted: 3 Oct 2013 17:36 | Edited by: Assif 
Singapore is running with its first site in 2015. Benin with its second in 2016. Svalbard 2015.

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#44 | Posted: 3 Jan 2014 09:18 
Angola is running with its first site in 2015.

Updated list:

1) Not in Unesco (11):
Liechtenstein, Kosovo (with a WHS)(Serbia), Northern Cyprus (Cyprus), Taiwan (China), Western Sahara (one T site) (Morocco), Transnistria (Moldova), Abkhazia (Georgia), South Ossetia (Georgia), Somaliland (Somalia), Azawad (with 3 WHS) (Mali), Nagorno-Karabakh (Azerbaijan).

2) Unesco members which didn't sign the WH convention (6):
Bahamas, South Sudan, Somalia, Timor Leste, Tuvalu, Nauru.

3) Member states and special territories with no T-list (18):
Sao Tome, Equatorial Guinea, Niue, Cook Islands, Djibouti, Liberia, Brunei, Monaco, French Carribean (France), Chechnya (Russia), French Guyana (France), Faroe (Denmark), Man (UK), Bougainville (PNG), Marianas and Guam (USA), Falkland and St. Georgia (UK), Chagos (UK), Tokelau (NZ).

4) Member states and special territories with T-list but no sites proposed (18):
Eritrea, Swaziland, Burundi, Comoros, Maldives, Tonga, Samoa, Bhutan, Trinidad Tobago, Antigua Barbuda, Grenada, St Vincent, Sierra Leone, Rwanda, British Caribbean (UK), Kuweit, Jan Mayen (Norway).

5) Member states and special territories with sites proposed but none inscribed not currently pursuing nomination (1):
Guyana

6) Member states and special territories with sites proposed but none inscribed currently pursuing nomination (9):
Myanmar (running 2014), Micronesia (Incompl 2010), Jamaica (running 2015), Guinea Bissau (Def 2013), Gibraltar (running 2016)(UK), Singapore (running 2015), Svalbard (running 2015)(Norway), Angola (running 2015), French Polynesia (running 2015)(France).

7) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed not pursuing further nominations (3):
Guinea, Congo (Rep), Lesotho.

8) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed pursuing further nominations (0):


9) Member states and special territories with only trans-national sites inscribed currently pursuing further nominations (2):
Zambia (running 2014), Moldova (Withd 2009) .

10) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed and no tentative list (4):
Belize, Puerto Rico (USA), New Caledonia (France), West Papua (Indonesia).

11) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed with a tentative list and not pursuing further nominations (20):
Palestine, Barbados, St. Kitts and Nevis, Vanuatu, Cape Verde, Solomons, Mozambique, El Salvador, Chad, Andorra, Haiti, Togo, PNG, Burkina Faso, Greenland (Denmark), Dutch Caribbean (Netherlands), St. Helena (UK), Tibet (China), Fiji, Qatar.

12) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed pursuing further nominations (3):
Gabon (Ref 2005), Paraguay (Rej 2005), Dominican Rep (Def 2005).

13) Member states and special territories with only one site inscribed currently pursuing further nominations (9):
Marshalls (Incompl 2010), Macedonia (Withd 2012), Palau (Incompl 2010), Botswana (running 2014), UAE (running 2014), Kyrgyzstan (running 2014), East Turkestan (running 2014) (China), Benin (2011 Def), Uruguay (running 2015).

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