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Author Assif
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#91 | Posted: 3 May 2016 15:22 
winterkjm:
- 17 nominations in 1 year!
- 12 state parties

Actually these are 15 NEW nominations in 11 countries. 2 nominations (Columbus in Huelva and Antananarivo) are renominations of older T-list entries. From the 15 remaining ones 3 are extensions to existing properties (Wassu, Georgetown, Classical Karst).

Author winterkjm
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#92 | Posted: 3 May 2016 23:46 
2016 15 nominations (??)

12 Year Summary
2015 130 nominations
2014 90 nominations
2013 80 nominations
2012 103 nominations
2011 72 nominations
2010 92 nominations
2009 88 nominations
2008 227 nominations
2007 152 nominations
2006 87 nominations
2005 121 nominations
2004 106 nominations

Author Assif
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#93 | Posted: 4 May 2016 05:58 
Thanks for the summary, winterkjm. The tendency is clear - this year is hitting a record low.
Just a comment on the methodology: If we count this year as 15 other years might be significantly lower too, as many of the T-list entries were renominations of older T-list entries. I recall Columbia as an example. It submitted all its T-list anew just translating the titles from Spanish to English.

Author winterkjm
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#94 | Posted: 4 May 2016 07:59 
Assif:
If we count this year as 15 other years might be significantly lower too, as many of the T-list entries were renominations of older T-list entries.

We shall see in about 2 weeks if its as low as 17 or 15, or if any late comers technically made it by April 15. Nevertheless, it does seem to be unpresedented.

Author meltwaterfalls
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#95 | Posted: 4 May 2016 11:48 
I wonder what the reasons are for such low figures?

-Just an an outlier because a couple of big countries didn't overhaul their t-lists (even if that is the case it is a very low number)

-Perhaps the delayed effect of austerity politics (culture and heritage departments are normally the first and easiest sectors to slash).

-Most things that would make the list are already inscribed or on the t-list (a look over the recent proposals from some western European countries would suggest this isn't really a hindrance)

Author elsslots
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#96 | Posted: 5 May 2016 12:36 
meltwaterfalls:
what the reasons are

- A backlog at Unesco headquarters and/or website?

Author winterkjm
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#97 | Posted: 22 May 2016 01:29 | Edited by: winterkjm 
Small Countries with an active Tentative List

Croatia 2016 - 2017 (4 nominations)
- Roman Urbanism of the Zadar Peninsula with the Monumental Complex on the Forum
- Stećci - Medieval Tombstones
- The Venetian Works of Defence between 15th and 17th centuries
- Primeval Beech Forests [extension]

Iraq 2016 - 2017 (3 nominations)
- The Ahwar of Southern Iraq: refuge of biodiversity and the relict landscape of the Mesopotamian Cities
- The Sacred Complex of Babylon
- Wadi Al-Salam Cemetery in Najaf

Montenegro 2016 - 2017 (3 nominations)
- Historic Center of Cetinje
- Stećci - Medieval Tombstones
- The Venetian Works of Defence between 15th and 17th centuries

Author Durian
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#98 | Posted: 22 May 2016 21:08 
Update on Malaysian tentative list

National Heritage Department is working to nominate:

- Sungai Batu Archaeological Complex, one of oldest iron smelting sites in Southeast Asia
- Pulau Sipadan, Sabah
- Royal Belum, Perak
- Permatang Quarza, Selangor; and
- Taman Negara National Park

http://www.nst.com.my/news/2016/05/147138/good-chance-sungai-batu-become-world-herita ge-site

Author winterkjm
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#99 | Posted: 31 May 2016 00:40 | Edited by: winterkjm 
22 Nominations submitted to UNESCO to replace Portugal's tentative list. Some names are translated vaguely and I would expect far more clarification when the sites actually are approved.

- Águas Livres Aqueduct
- Baixa
- Building headquarters and park the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation,
- Historical, Global City (Lisbon)
- Pilgrimage of Portuguese ways to Santiago de Compostela
- Historic Centre of Guimarães and Leather Zone (extension)
- Roman Industrial Complex Salting and Preserved Fish in Troy
- Architectural masterpieces set of Álvaro Siza Vieira in Portugal
- West Coast
- Desert of the Discalced Carmelites and Built Set-Palace Hotel in the Bussaco
- Mid-Atlantic Ridge
- Bulwark Fortresses of Raia
- Icnitos of Dinosaurs of the Iberian Peninsula
- Wild Islands
- Levada Madeira
- Globalization places
- Mértola
- Assembled, Cultural Landscape
- Palace and Tapada National de Mafra and fencing Garden
- Magellan's route: First around the world
- Bom Jesus do Monte (Braga) and Vila Viçosa
- Renaissance Ducal Vila

http://www.dn.pt/portugal/interior/portugal-tem-22-bens-candidatos-a-patrimonio-mundi al-da-unesco-5200808.html

Author meltwaterfalls
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#100 | Posted: 31 May 2016 05:50 | Edited by: meltwaterfalls 
winterkjm:
22 Nominations submitted to UNESCO to replace Portugal's tentative list.

Wow, I think I make that seven in Lisbon, and Mafra and Troia (Troy) aren't that far away either.

Although that does include the Magellan site, I don't understand that one yet, he didn't sail from anywhere in Portugal, (he departed from Sanlucar de Barrameda in Spain current departure point for cruises to Donana NP), but I am guessing it has a link to Belem

winterkjm:
Globalization places

Odd title, but I'm interested to see what happens with this one. This article indicates it is be based around Sagres, Maderia and the Azores tied by links to Henry the Navigator. With a multinational aspect linked to Cape Verde, Morocco and Spain. It feels like something better covered by other UNESCO initiatives, but it rather appeals to me.

Author meltwaterfalls
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#101 | Posted: 31 May 2016 06:22 | Edited by: meltwaterfalls 
meltwaterfalls:
22 Nominations submitted to UNESCO to replace Portugal's tentative list.
Wow, I think I make that seven in Lisbon

Actually I think that article has got something wrong as there seem to only be 19 sites in their list rather than 22 (either that or they don't have a sub-editor that can use punctuation properly - I'm on no moral high ground on that one).

I think a lot of those Lisbon sites are part of one bigger site. I was struggling to see how they could nominate the Lower Town as one site and the whole city as another.

I think this is the breakdown of the 19, though my Portuguese isn't up to much so I could be wrong:

meltwaterfalls' guess:
Lisbon a Historic Global City including: Aqueduct of Águas Livres, Baixa Pombalina (lower town) and the Park and Buildings of the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation
Portuguese Pilgrimage Routes to Santiago de Compostela
Historic Centre of Guimarães incl. the tanneries (extension)
Roman Industrial complex for salting a preserving fish in Tróia (how very Portuguese!!)
Architectural masterpieces of Álvaro Siza Vieira in Portugal
South West Coast
The route of the Discalced Carmelite's including the Palace Hotel in Buçaco.
Mid-Atlantic Ridge
Bulwark fortresses on the Portuguese/Spanish frontier
Dinosaur Ichnite Sites of the Iberian Peninsula
The Savage Islands
Levadas of Madeira (Irrigation channels)
The first places of globalisation (Sagres, Azores, Madiera -potentially also Cape Verde, Cetua (Spain) and Ksar es-Seghir (Morocco))
Mértola
Montando - A type of agro-sylvo-pastoral farming landscape (apparently known as Dehesa in English)
Mafra Palace and Royal Forest including the Jardim do Cerco
Route of Magellan; The first to sail around the world (although he didn't sail from Portugal so I'm not sure what is included)
Sanctury of Bom Jesus do Monte (Braga)
Ducal Palace of Vila Viçosa


Author Solivagant
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#102 | Posted: 31 May 2016 07:26 | Edited by: Solivagant 
meltwaterfalls:
oute of Magellan; The first to sail around the world (although he didn't sail from Portugal so I'm not sure what is included)

He was Portuguese so possibly Portugal is hoping to sneak in his house in Sabrosa?
see - http://www.panoramio.com/photo/118042020
I suppose his "route" could be said to have "started" there! But such "associative" nominations are not usually acceptable. But then the whole "route" is "associative"

Author meltwaterfalls
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#103 | Posted: 31 May 2016 10:34 
Solivagant:
He was Portuguese so possibly Portugal is hoping to sneak in his house in Sabrosa?

Yeah, I was thinking it would be something tenuous like that. I don't really think that is a "goer".

It also looks like your fear of potential "Starchitect"nominations is bearing fruits. I'm somewhat fond of Siza's works, but they certainly aren't what I have in mind when I think of OUV.

Author Solivagant
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#104 | Posted: 31 May 2016 12:15 | Edited by: Solivagant 
meltwaterfalls:
It also looks like your fear of potential "Starchitect"nominations is bearing fruits.

Out of interest I have made a quick trawl through the T List to identify (at least!) the following entries consisting solely of the work of a named 20th C Architect -
Belgium - L'oeuvre architecturale d'Henry van de Velde
Brazil - Sítio Roberto Burle Marx (they could hardly avoid it I suppose as the Park bears his name!)
Czech Rep/Slovenia - The timeless, humanistic architecture of Jože Plecnik
Hungary - Ödön Lechner's independent pre-modern architecture
Uruguay - L'oeuvre de l'ingénieur Eladio Dieste
USA - Frank Lloyd Wright Buildings

And there are of course other entries which are the work of a single "modern" architect but don't trade on the architect's name. (An approach with which I have no "issues" by the way.)
Colombia - Virgilio Barco Library (Salmona)
Finland - Paimio Hospital (Aalto)
Mexico - Rivera - Kahlo Home Study Museum (O'Gorman)

Author Assif
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#105 | Posted: 31 May 2016 13:51 
Other aspirants are Kirche am Steinhof (Otto Wagner) and the work of Mackintosh in Glasgow. There are surely a few more.

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