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Author winterkjm
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#226 | Posted: 20 May 2017 03:57 
elsslots:
Pretty accurate! You keep getting better over the years in this, winterkjm

"We" keep getting better, often times I am just organizing what everyone posts!

Author pikkle
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#227 | Posted: 20 May 2017 13:04 
The Frank Lloyd Wright resubmission should be set for 2018 too?

Author Durian
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#228 | Posted: 24 May 2017 20:45 
Local miners oppose WHS nomination on Klondike. From Primachiowin Aki example, is it possible that Canada may postpone bid until all stakeholder agreed?

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/north/dawson-unesco-world-heritage-miners-concerns -1.4127651

Author winterkjm
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#229 | Posted: 10 Jul 2017 20:17 | Edited by: winterkjm 
Official Nominations for 2018 (28)

Africa (1)
- Barberton Makhonjwa Mountains (South Africa) N

Arab States (2)
- Ancient City of Qalhat (Oman) C
- Al-Ahsa Oasis, an Evolving Cultural Landscape (Saudi Arabia) CL

Asia (9)
- Historic Monuments and Sites of Ancient Qunazhou - Zayton (China) C
- Fanjingshan (China) N
- The Victorian & Art Deco Ensemble of Mumbai (India) C
- Age of Trade: Old Jakarta (Indonesia) C
- Sassanian Archaeological Landscape of Fars Region (Iran) CL
- Arasbaran Protected Area (Iran) N
- Hidden Christian Sites in the Nagasaki Region (Japan) C
- Amami-Oshima Island, Tokunoshima Island, the northern part of Okinawa Island and Iriomote Island (Japan) N
- Sansa, Buddhist Mountain Monasteries in Korea (Republic of Korea) C

Europe (12)
- Funeral and Memorial Sites of World War I (Western Front) (Belgium, France) C (TOP MISSING)
- Colonies of Benevolence (Belgium, Netherlands) C
- Žatec – the Hops Town (Czechia) C
- Nimes, Antiquity to the present (France) C
- The Jewish Cemetery Hamburg-Altona (Germany) C
- The Archaeological Border Landscape of Hedeby and Danevirke (Germany) CL
- Ivrea, industrial city of the 20th century (Italy) C
- The Prosecco Hills of Conegliano and Valdobbiadene (Italy) CL
- Roșia Montană Mining Cultural Landscape (Romania) CL
- Bikin River Valley [Extension] (Russia) N
- The Caliph City of Medina Azahara (Spain) C
- Gobekli Tepe (Turkey) C (TOP MISSING)

Latin America & Caribbean (1)
- Chiribiquete National Park - "Maloca of the Jaguar" (Columbia) M

North America (3)
- Tr'ondëk-Klondike (Canada) CL (TOP MISSING)
- Pimachiowin Aki (Canada) M
- Aasivissuit - Nipisat, Inuit Hunting Ground between Ice and Sea (Denmark) CL

Cultural - 21
Natural - 5
Mixed - 2


Now that the 2017 WHC is over, I wonder about the host country and nominations for 2018?

Potential for 2 inscriptions:
Belgium, Canada, China, France, Germany, Iran, Italy, Japan

Very real chance of another Palestinian Emergency nomination
- Cultural Landscape of Cremisan Valley [Extension] (Palestine) CL

Author winterkjm
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#230 | Posted: 12 Jul 2017 12:32 
pikkle:
The Frank Lloyd Wright resubmission should be set for 2018 too?

It has not been submitted, (confirmed by NPS), I think we can expect either 2019 or 2020.

Author jeanbon
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#231 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 08:25 
nobody knows where will be located the next session?

Author Solivagant
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#232 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 09:01 | Edited by: Solivagant 
jeanbon:
nobody knows where will be located the next session?

It will be decided/announced at the General Assembly in Paris in November, together with the new Committee members. See - http://whc.unesco.org/en/ga
There were no "volunteers" at this year's WHC (when it is normally decided) and UNESCO says that having it at the Paris HQ is too expensive! All those highly paid translators and security apparently. Presumably various countries are having their arms twisted at this moment - and being promised the right to get some mediocre site inscribed (or at least only "referred"! e.g Bahrain's "Pearling" nomination in 2011 - but then they were "naughty" and didn't deserve more as their "civil unrest" meant that they never actually hosted the WHC but merely chaired it ) in return - the "normal" prize for hosting a WHC!! See - http://www.worldheritagesite.org/connection/WHC+locations

Author jeanbon
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#233 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 11:36 
Interesting, thank you for the information.
The HQ is too expensive? It's weird, they make many meetings there, including next november...lol

Author Solivagant
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#234 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 12:05 | Edited by: Solivagant 
jeanbon:
The HQ is too expensive? It's weird, they make many meetings there, including next november

I suppose those meetings are budgeted for - an unplanned WHC in Paris compared with getting some other country to fund the costs would require some extra monies to be found from somewhere and UNESCO must be very short of funds with countries like USA and Canada not paying their "dues" because of Palestine.
Whatever - that "excuse"/reason for not holding the 2018 WHC in Paris WAS given during the WHC earlier this month.

Author winterkjm
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#235 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 13:15 
My top candidate cities:

Guilin, China
Xi'an, China
Dubrovnik, Croatia
Lisbon, Portugal
Seoul, Republic of Korea
Jeonju, Republic of Korea
San Antonio Texas, USA
Da Nang, Vietnam

It's really anyone's guess at this point. How does this work exactly, usually the WHC is held by a state party that is currently serving on the world heritage committee? In light of the situation, could it be any state party?

Author Solivagant
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#236 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 14:50 | Edited by: Solivagant 
I have just had a quick look through the locations of the previous 41 WHCs to identify those countries which have and those who have not "hosted" and those who perhaps SHOULD do so!!
France has "hosted" 9 all at UNESCO HQ in Paris - but it isn't clear whether this really counts as "France" hosting or whether all the cost goes to UNESCO whilst all the economic "benefit" goes to France! One might have thought that France might have chosen a provincial city to actually "host" its own WHC?

Of the other 32
EUROPE (I have counted Turkey as "Europe") has hosted 11 spread across 9 countries - Germany and Italy have each held 2. BUT - No UK, Belgium or Portugal (despite the latter being very "vociferous" at recent WHCs!!) and no Scandinavian rep (I exclude Finland)
Fin 25COM Helsinki, Finland (2001)
Ger 19COM Berlin, Germany (1995)
Ger 39COM Bonn,Germany (2015)
Hun 26COM Budapest, Hungary (2002)
It 07COM Florence, Italy (1983)
It 21COM Naples, Italy (1997)
Lith 30COM Vilnius, Lithuania (2006)
Pol 41COM Krakow, Poland (2017)
Rus 36COM Saint Petersburg, Russian Federation (2012)
Sp 33COM Sevilla, Spain (2009)
Tur 40COM Istanbul, Turkey; (and UNESCO's Headquarters after the "Revolution"!) (2016)

N AMERICA has hosted 4 with both US and Canada "doing the honours" twice. They seem to have "done their bit" and are out of contention anyway with the "Palestine issue"!
Can 14COM Banff, Canada (1990)
Can 32COM Quebec City, Canada (2008)
US 02COM Washington, D.C (1978)
US 16COM Santa Fe, USA (1992)

LATIN AMERICA has hosted 5 with Brazil hosting twice. Seems a reasonable record - Chile and Peru are missing perhaps
Arg 08COM Buenos Aires, Argentina (1984)
Braz 12COM Brasilia, Brazil (1988)
Braz 34COM Brasília, Brazil (2010)
Col 17COM Cartagena, Colombia (1993)
Mex 20COM Mérida, Mexico (1996)

"OCEANIA" has hosted 3 with Australia hosting twice. They also would seem to have "done their bit"!
NZ 31COM Christchurch, New-Zealand (2007)
Oz 05COM Sydney, Australia (1981)
Oz 24COM Cairns, Australia (2000)

AFRICA has hosted 4 with no dual hosting. It seems difficult to identify any other obvious candidate with the money to spare
Egy 03COM Luxor, Egypt (1979)
Mor 23COM Marrakesh, Morocco (1999)
RSA 29COM Durban, South Africa (2005)
Tun 15COM Carthage, Tunisia (1991)

ASIA has hosted 5 with no dual hosting. Bahrain should have hosted the 2011 WHC but it was transferred to Paris after the "Near revolution" there. A fair number of missing potential candidates here! No S Korea, India, Iran, Saudi, Singapore, Vietnam
Camb 37COM Phnom Penh, Cambodia (2013)
Chin 28COM Suzhou, China (2004)
Jap 22COM Kyoto, Japan (1998)
Qat 38COM Doha, Qatar (2014)
Tha 18COM Phuket, Thailand (1994)

In terms of spread by continent in recent years (going back to 2000) - it really does seem time to move from Europe - which really only leaves Asia?
EUR 41COM Krakow, Poland (2017)
EUR 40COM Istanbul, Turkey; UNESCO's Headquarters (2016)
EUR 39COM Bonn,Germany (2015)
AS 38COM Doha, Qatar (2014)
AS 37COM Phnom Penh, Cambodia (2013)
EUR 36COM Saint Petersburg, Russian Federation (2012)
SAM 34COM Brasília, Brazil (2010)
EUR 33COM Sevilla, Spain (2009)
NAM 32COM Quebec City, Canada (2008)
OC 31COM Christchurch, New-Zealand (2007)
EUR 30COM Vilnius, Lithuania (2006)
Afr 29COM Durban, South Africa (2005)
AS 28COM Suzhou, China (2004)
EUR 26COM Budapest, Hungary (2002)
EUR 25COM Helsinki, Finland (2001)
OC 24COM Cairns, Australia (2000)

S Korea would seem to be the ideal candidate - promise them the Seoul Wall and they might even do it!!
Of course Israel could volunteer - that REALLY would put the cat among the pigeons! Would the Arab members on the WHC be prepared even to go!

Author evilweevil
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#237 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 16:23 
For Africa, Tanzania comes to mind. They are on the committee, have a relatively well-developed tourism industry, many WH sites, and a big conference centre in Arusha, which is close to the Kilimanjaro and hosts several international organizations.

Author jonathanfr
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#238 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 17:02 
evilweevil:
For Africa, Tanzania comes to mind. They are on the committee, have a relatively well-developed tourism industry, many WH sites, and a big conference centre in Arusha, which is close to the Kilimanjaro and hosts several international organizations.

Good idea, and it would not make a big jet lag for the Europeans who will follow the live! lol

Author Solivagant
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#239 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 17:12 | Edited by: Solivagant 
I set myself the job of trying to discover how much it might cost to "host" a WHC!
First problem - find a country whose government is open and accountable and is likely to publish budgets and costs (and speaks English to help Google searching!)
First Answer - New Zealand - the 2007 WHC at Christchurch
First document - one has to feel sorry for the Christchurch Council - they have just been told that it is their job to host a "Mayoral Welcoming Reception" for between 600 and 800 guests attending the WHC and they have NOTHING in their budget for it!!! The minutes show how they have begged and borrowed money and, after considering option 3 ("Option 3: Not support the provision of a Civic Welcome event for the UNESCO Conference as there is no specific budget for the event. This does pose a problem in that the programme sent to registered delegates includes a Civic Welcome hosted by the Christchurch City Council.") decide to cough up the NZ $30000 for it!

More importantly however the minutes show that the main cost of the event is to be covered by New Zealand's "Department of Conservation"

A quick search and, BINGO!! - there it is - that Department's special budget for hosting the World Heritage Committee at Christchurch (including the hiring of Consultants to organise it of course!)

The Damage??? NZ $ 2,000,000.
In Jan 2007 US$1 = c NZ$1.45
So - cost to NZ approx US$ 1.4 million
It isn't going to have got cheaper is it - what with all those extra hangers on who no doubt have joined in the intervening years and the live streaming etc etc etc. It has also extended in length into a second week compared with 2007.
Delegates of course are responsible for their own expenses (other than Mayoral receptions etc!)
See - http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/informationreleases/budget/2006/pdfs/b06-cab min06-11-7-12.pdf

On the other hand ........ Whilst they bemoaned having to find the NZ$ 30000 for the Mayoral reception the Christchurch council noted that -
"It is estimated that the event will provide a direct local economic impact of at least $3 million to the local economy, as well as providing significant international media and stakeholder exposure for the city."
So - it could be a "good deal" for any city around the World IF it can get its Central Government to pay for the WHC!
See - http://resources.ccc.govt.nz/files/thecouncil/meetingsminutes/agendas/2007/March/Cncl Cover29th/UnescoWorldHeritage.pdf

Author jonathanfr
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#240 | Posted: 27 Jul 2017 17:54 
Azerbaijan seems to be a good candidate, the country is dynamic to host major events: 2015 European Games, Eurovision, Formula 1 Grand Prix, maybe Expo 2025 ... A position at the crossroads of Europe and Asia .

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