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Author hubert
#16 | Posted: 12 Jun 2012 13:11 
I do like the Chilehaus, but I must admit none of those proposals really set my world alight.

I fully agree. Obviously, they run out of good proposals. But that's not surprising, Germany is already very well represented on the list.
I look forward to the new German T list. The deadline for the submissions of the 16 federal states is in August (one or two suggestions for each federal state). Then an evaluation committee will select the most promising proposals. There are a few interesting sites, I hope they will succeed.

I visited Corvey a few years ago, it is only 50 km southwest of the Fagus Factory and about 60 km north of Kassel. According to Wikipedia the Corvey Westwork is the oldest preserved example, but even in the following Ottonian period this element was no longer realized in its pure form. So if you are almost the only preserved example of a category, it is not surprising that you are also the best and the oldest. But is this sufficient for OUV?

I will visit Kassel in August, mainly because of the Documenta. But I hope I can also attend the water features. That's the focus of the proposal, but they take place only 2-3 times per week in summer.

Author meltwaterfalls
#17 | Posted: 12 Jun 2012 18:27 
I will visit Kassel in August, mainly because of the Documenta

I hadn't encountered Documenta until it turned up in the paper today, it certainly looks interesting, I hope it is as worthwhile to visit as it seems. I also didn't realise the water features at Wilhelmshöhe had a schedule, I just assumed they were just fountains, perhaps I should investigate them a little more before I dismiss them.

Author hubert
#18 | Posted: 12 Jun 2012 20:17 
I also didn't realise the water features at Wilhelmshöhe had a schedule, I just assumed they were just fountains

When I was in the area some years ago, I skipped Kassel, because I thought that's just another park with a palace and a few fountains. But, recently I stumbled upon the website of the nomination (unfortunately in German only). They produced a short accompanying film for the nomination, that gives an impression of the water features:


Quite impressive, I hope it's the same in reality - though without the music. They use the same technical equipment as 300 years ago. Rain and ground water is gathered in ponds and flows only by natural pressure to the different cascades and fountains.

Author winterkjm
#19 | Posted: 13 Jul 2012 03:51 | Edited by: winterkjm 
Update and confirmation of Japan's cultural nomination for 2014.

The Tomioka Silk Mill and Related Industrial Heritage


Author winterkjm
#20 | Posted: 15 Jul 2012 01:12 
Ukraine nomination for 2014

Bagçesaray Palace of the Crimean Khans


Author elsslots
#21 | Posted: 19 Aug 2012 04:22 | Edited by: elsslots 
For Iran

Vank Cathedral (in Isfahan)


(the story says 2013, but it's not on the list that was published recently)

P.S.: I can't find it on the T-list

Author winterkjm
#22 | Posted: 30 Aug 2012 00:00 

Author winterkjm
#23 | Posted: 15 Sep 2012 00:29 | Edited by: winterkjm 
India preparing Dehli for 2014. Dossier is nearly complete, and will be sent to Unesco soon.

Imperial Town Planning Traditions of Delhi


Author winterkjm
#24 | Posted: 20 Sep 2012 15:37 
Wat Phra Mahathat Woramahawihan, Nakhon Si Thammarat (Thailand)

- Seeking insciption for 2014 or 2015. Dossier currently being submitted.


Author Messy
#25 | Posted: 7 Oct 2012 18:12 
I'm not sure the Frank Lloyd Wright sites are going to make it for 2013, or even '14. They were given an extension, and the Interior department is making the conservencies for all ten properties do the paperwork. Some of these are mostly broke.

Author Solivagant
#26 | Posted: 8 Oct 2012 04:16 | Edited by: Solivagant 
the Interior department is making the conservencies for all ten properties do the paperwork. Some of these are mostly broke.

It appears that there is indeed quite a bureaucracy involved in preparing the documentation for any Frank Lloyd Wright nomination

a. The lead organisation is the "Frank Lloyd Wright Building Conservancy" (FLWBC) - it will coordinate the preparation and the handover to the National Park Service (NPS). It is a Chicago based organisation and its Web site is http://www.savewright.org/
Surprisingly I can find no reference on this site to the Nomination!!
b. To help FLWBC, an ad hoc group called the "Frank Lloyd Wright World heritage Council" (FLWWHC) has been set up. It is made up of a representative from each of the organisations responsible for the properties aiming for nomination - plus a FLWBC rep.

As Messy indicates these organisations seem individually to be small players. They each have to find $5000 to join in plus $500 ongoing - seems rather low?? Documentation I have found also talks on the one hand of a nomination for 2013 to be considered at the 2014 WHC and of "annual meetings" and chairman being appointed for 2 years at a time etc etc!! These seem incompatible.

I found these 2 documents on the Web site of Marin County, San Rafael, CA whose Civic Centre is one of the buildings
a. Jan 12. "Memorandum of Agreement" for the FLWWHC. It lists each of the individual organisations which will participate http://www.co.marin.ca.us/EFiles/Docs/AD/CivicConservancy/12_0425_RP_120402155151.pdf
b. April 3 2012. A recommendation to Marin County Board from its "Facilities Planning and Development Manager" that it participate. It contains some background to the timescale, activities etc etc
http://www.co.marin.ca.us/EFiles/Docs/AD/CivicConservancy/12_0425_RP_120402154646.pdf (I see that this document has been referenced before on this forum by winterkjm on 16 April 2012 under US Approach to WH)

So far I have found no progress reports. It is now Oct 2012 - papers for the 2014 WHC must be with UNESCO in just over 3 months! And any produced by these groups still have to go through the NPS/Dept of Interior etc review processes. No way???

Author Euloroo
#27 | Posted: 8 Oct 2012 08:13 
I found these 2 documents on the Web site of Marin County

An interesting - and I think slightly dangerous - comment to put in the MOA, even given US sensibilities towards the WH Convention and sovereignty:

"Furthermore, it is important to point out that neither UNESCO nor the World Heritage Committee have the judicial authority to compel the United States, this Council, or property owners to take specific actions. The purpose of the World Heritage Committee is to serve as an advisory body promoting international cooperation."

Try telling that to Liverpool City Council!

Author winterkjm
#28 | Posted: 8 Oct 2012 22:19 
and I think slightly dangerous - comment to put in the MOA, even given US sensibilities towards the WH Convention and sovereignty

Exactly! Do not mention this evil UN agency planning to take my land and waste my tax dollars!!! I do find it humorous that most NPS statements on the World Heritage program have to explicitly state that the UN does not have any power or rights over the inscribed property. Yet still many skeptics remain?

Author winterkjm
#29 | Posted: 11 Nov 2012 15:25 
UAE will likely bring Khow Dubai before the WHC in 2014, perhaps 2015 depending on how you interpret the article.

"Khor Dubai is due to be nominated in 2014, the Ed-Dur site in 2016 and the Cultural Landscape of the Central Region in the Emirate of Sharjah in 2017."

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/society/six-uae-heritage-sites-in-unesco-bid-1.1096 534

Author meltwaterfalls
#30 | Posted: 12 Nov 2012 05:02 
Khor Dubai is due to be nominated in 2014,

I must admit I didn't realise Dubai Creek was even on the tentative list. I haven't visited so don't have anything to base it on but is there anything of note actually there?

I just plucked out my Lonely Planet this morning and it doesn't strike me as particularly choc full of heritage sites or history. There seems to be a fort, a palace and not a huge amount of histoic note. The presence of a newly built 'Heritage/ Diving village' indicates to me that anything of interest may well have been swept aside.

Can anyone fill me in on if there is anything there? Or is a potential Dubai WHS a little like Liverpool but without the history, significance or heritage sites, and more pressure for modern development?

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