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Author winterkjm
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#256 | Posted: 6 May 2017 16:41 | Edited by: winterkjm 
27 National Monuments are under review for possible smaller boundaries or even being rescinded by the Department of the Interior and the President.

4 of these national monuments surround the Grand Canyon National Park. One wonders what will be included in the next state of conservation report in 2018. Could the Grand Canyon be placed on the In Danger List?

"Further requests the State Party to submit to the World Heritage Centre, by 1 December 2017, an updated report on the state of conservation of the property and the implementation of the above, for examination by the World Heritage Committee at its 42nd session in 2018."

Papahanaumokuakea, is also one of the listed national monuments that is "under review". The boundaries could be altered, or the monument could be targeted for deletion if lawsuits and popular opinion are not successful.

Tentative Nominations also "under review"
Marianas Trench
Pacific Remote Islands


https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/interior-department-releases-list-monuments-under-r eview-announces-first-ever-formal

Two major reasons for Public Review given by Trump Administration's Executive Order

"The Department of the Interior seeks public comments related to: (1) Whether national monuments in addition to those listed above should be reviewed because they were designated or expanded after January 1, 1996 "without adequate public outreach and coordination with relevant stakeholders;"

"Certain Marine National Monuments will also be reviewed. As directed by section 4 of Executive Order 13795 of April 28, 2017, "Implementing An America-First Offshore Energy Strategy"

Author Assif
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#257 | Posted: 7 May 2017 14:06 
Carrizo Plains, discussed before on this Forum and with a good chance of inscription, is also on this list.

Author Messy
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#258 | Posted: 13 May 2017 08:36 
So what are they going to do about the FLW sites? resubmit them or something?

Author winterkjm
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#259 | Posted: 13 May 2017 11:30 | Edited by: winterkjm 
27 National Monuments are under review for possible smaller boundaries or even being rescinded by the Department of the Interior and the President.

Here's how to submit a comment: Go to www.regulations.gov and search for "DOI-2017-0002."

Help protect 27 National Monuments in the US. 2 WHS and 2 TWHS!

Author Assif
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#260 | Posted: 13 May 2017 12:12 
winterkjm:
Help protect 27 National Monuments in the US. 2 WHS and 2 TWHS!

Is this limited to US citizens?

Author winterkjm
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#261 | Posted: 13 May 2017 23:41 | Edited by: winterkjm 
Nope, its not required to put in a zip code and I doubt they are monitoring if your internet connection is outside the US. Give it a shot and let me know. I wrote a full letter since I have visited a good number of these national monuments, and the idea of any of these locations being degraded by mining or other forms of resource extraction sickens me. The "America First Energy Policy" is a particularly egregious action taken on by the current US regime. Many people just made a short comment supporting a specific monument. Only 2 people mentioned UNESCO, (myself included). The reality is any change of boundaries or deletion of a national monument surrounding the Grand Canyon or the Papahanaumokuakea National Monument would likely end up in the site being placed on the In Danger List.

Author pikkle
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#262 | Posted: 14 May 2017 01:50 
All of this over Bears Ears National Monument... Teddy Roosevelt is rolling in his grave, even if he could be a weirdo, he was a visionary when it came to National Monuments and National Parks. I believe the NPS has come out fervently in opposition to this.

Author winterkjm
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#263 | Posted: 14 May 2017 03:29 | Edited by: winterkjm 
Legally, it might not even be possible to rescind a national monument in the US, its never happened before! If this so called "review" recommends any boundary modifications or rescinded monuments, lawsuits will be filled immediately to stop such an action. In the end, it would be decided in court.

In my opinion, Bear Ears, Canyon of the Ancients, Hovenweep, Canyon de Chelly, and Monument Valley should already be one very large mixed WHS.

Author GaryArndt
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#264 | Posted: 14 May 2017 12:14 
"Legally, it might not even be possible to rescind a national monument in the US, its never happened before!"

That's not true. There have been 26 national park units which have been abolished.

https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2011/12/gone-and-mostly-forgotten-26-abolished- national-parks9202

Author winterkjm
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#265 | Posted: 14 May 2017 13:08 | Edited by: winterkjm 
I should have spoke specifically. No Monument has been abolished by the President, and that is the origin of the "review", its origin is the Executive Branch. No President has rescinded a National Monument. The Antiquities Act does not spell out any such power.

As you say, Congress has abolished National Parks/Monuments or changed boundaries significantly, but that is within their rights. Currently, no National Monument is in danger from Congress, only from the President.

Author Solivagant
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#266 | Posted: 14 May 2017 13:15 
GaryArndt:
There have been 26 national park units which have been abolished.

Most of those "abolished" appear to have simply been "transferred" ("Downgraded"???) to some other form of protection designation.
Perhaps those of us who are not US citizens don't appreciate the non symbolic (ie "practical") significance of the designation "National xxxxx" - Park, Monument, Preserve, Historic Site, Historical Park, Historic Landmark... (are there more??).
There are some US WHS which are not National Parks etc etc and UNESCO seems to accept that these can be adequately legally protected.
But it seems that a lot of US WHS which don't at first seem to have a national "designation" do in fact have one - e.g San Antonio Missions.
I have so far only been able to discover the following which are not "National xxxx". Am I wrong?
Cahokia (State Park),
University of Virginia
Taos Pueblo

Do we know what the Trump administration is expecting/hoping might happen to the sites which it proposes to "delist" from National Status - a free for all to frack, dig mines, build casinos etc etc? Or is it merely making a political point that such transfers should not occur in the way they did since the cut off date?

I see, for instance, that the Grand Canyon-Parashant NM was previously mainly part of Lake Mead Rec Area plus some Arizona State Lands AND some private lands. UNESCO was presumably happy with this when it designated GC within its current boundaries. I guess that IF the private lands reverted as such then there could be some activity which would "upset" UNESCO in much the same way as the mining outside Yellowstone "upset" it a number of years ago?

Author winterkjm
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#267 | Posted: 14 May 2017 13:17 
Solivagant:
Cahokia (State Park),
University of Virginia
Taos Pueblo

All National Historic Landmarks

Author winterkjm
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#268 | Posted: 14 May 2017 13:24 | Edited by: winterkjm 
Solivagant:
Park, Monument, Preserve, Historic Site, Historical Park, Historic Landmark... (are there more??)

The most well known sites usually fall into:
National Parks (59)
National Monuments (129)

The President has special powers to create National Monuments under the Antiquities Act, though Congress also the power to designate National Monuments. Obama used this power more than any other President (by far).

Other designations that represent National significance:
National Historic Landmark (more than 2500)
National Natural Landmark (about 600)
National Recreation Areas
National Memorials
National Battlefields
National Seashores

There are more...

Author winterkjm
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#269 | Posted: 14 May 2017 13:37 | Edited by: winterkjm 
Solivagant:
Do we know what the Trump administration is expecting/hoping might happen to the sites which it proposes to "delist" from National Status - a free for all to frack, dig mines, build casinos etc etc? Or is it merely making a political point that such transfers should not occur in the way they did since the cut off date?

Both, the politics of this make him popular with his base. In addition, Mining, Timber, Cattle-grazing, and Oil/Gas advocates/companies are hugely supported of this "Review". Some rural communities that hunt and partake in other outdoor recreation have a mixed opinion, some are against National Monuments (viewed as "Federal land grabs"), some just want to discuss shared-use policies that do not necessarily restrict, hunting, fishing, or ATV use.

Its unclear if Trump actually believes he can legally rescind a National Monument, but since it increases his popularity with his base, fulfills some campaign promises, and may have some chance in court; hence the review? Based on his policy with the Keystone and Dakota Access Pipeline, Climate change, and his "America First Energy" policy, no one should harbor any illusions that all 27 of these National Monuments are not critically in danger if he can find a legal basis to abolish them or at the minimum decrease their size.

Author Colvin
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#270 | Posted: 14 May 2017 14:29 
The one saving grace in the US since Trump has been in office is that federal courts have been quick to challenge and halt the overreach of his executive orders. I fully expect court challenges should Trump try to rescind or change the boundaries of any of the national monuments.

Here is some background on two of the national monuments that were particularly contentious when named: Bear Ears National Monument in Utah and Katahdin Woods and Waters National Monument in Maine. I am fully in favor of both monuments, and view protected wilderness as one of the greatest features of the United States.

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